The Philladelphia Experiment

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By Anonymous on Monday, October 11, 1999 - 11:17 am:

Can anyone shed some light on the supposed time-travel incident which may or may-not have occurred on an american war-ship in the 40's?


By Smte on Monday, October 11, 1999 - 03:53 pm:

According to certain eyewitness accounts though they cannot be verified, a purported device was created to form an "invisible field" around a naval vessel. A "cloaking device." If you've watched Star Trek you'll get the idea. The device had supposedly worked for awhile until things went awry. Some books and articles in certain magazines have been written about the incident including a movie. Whether this really happened is speculatative. The stories tend to be dubious at best.


By Anonymous on Thursday, October 28, 1999 - 06:01 pm:

There's an in depth article in the November 99' issue of UFO Magazine. Check it out.


By Admin on Wednesday, November 24, 1999 - 04:05 pm:

The theory is during the experiment the incredible field created disrupted time space and either moved the ship into the past, future or SOMEWHERE for a brief period...which is really why the ship dissapeared.

This was likely not stealth, but some kind of reaction they did not comprehend at the time
and still don't.

I personally believe in this one.

Paraseek Admin


By MrX on Monday, February 19, 2001 - 02:07 pm:

What they tried to do was make the ship invisable
to radar or maybe site. A few things I do know is
that the ship totally disappeared for a few
seconds and that it appeared on radar screens in a
different location. The ship then went back to
its original location. Alot of the crew on the
ship died and most of the other survivors either
ended up in mental institutions or fell very ill.
My dad remembers when it happened. I will ask him
more about it.

http://communities.ninemsn.com.au/ParanormalNexus

MrX............


By Kenobe on Thursday, April 19, 2001 - 03:51 pm:

When they started playing with atomic bombs, the explosions power ripped a hole in our space/time continuum.This opened a whole Pandoras Box of weird goings on,in our dimension, that still occur and have yet to be fully explained even though most of sciencefiction today is real close to fact.
http://shroomn8r.homestead.com/index.html


By Mike E. on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 08:27 am:

The Philly Experiment was the birth of Philedelphia Cream Cheese. No,just kiddin' The Philly Experiment was an experiment by the gov to try to make their warships invisible to the naked eye. Something got screwed when it worked,though. They say some of the crew were somehow caught between decks,and other weird stuff happened on the ship. It also had something to do with time travel,because in Command and Conquer:Red Alert,the Chronosphere "transports units place to place with the results of the Philedelphia Experiment without having to cross the space between." I kid u not.


By Kevin johnson on Monday, November 5, 2001 - 05:47 pm:

is it true that some of the crew went crazy
afterwards the other thing is if they
did'nt turn her invisible why degauss her


By Brian on Friday, December 21, 2001 - 12:13 pm:

i had never heard of this before. but now i will be researching it. it sounds very interesting.


By Casey on Thursday, March 7, 2002 - 07:35 am:

the philly experiment is part of the mystery surrounding montauk in ny where other strange things reportedly happen. though the base is said to belong to the national park, armed guards still patrol there and anyone sighted is told they are trespassing on private property. why? some believe experiments are still ongoing there. casey


By Anonymous on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 12:58 pm:

I'm just starting to get into this since my dad told me about this a little while ago, so, I heard that the crew on the ship went through a time/space travel and when came back, were all messed up (mentally and physically). Does any one know more about this?????


By Paraseek Webmaster (Admin) on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 12:41 pm:

Gotta say, this has always been one of my favorite topics because it is in all likelihood at least partially true.

Although its hard to tell what actually happened, from all accounts the injuries and possible deaths encountered by the crew were due to the incredible energy fields (which are scientific fact not fiction and very do-able with past technology) that were created.

It is not unlike test subjects in an atomic bomb explosion. The fields created in the Phily test simply are not meant for the human body (unprotected) to handle.

A good analogy to what happened is provided by simple harmonics. You can essentially displace an object in space (bend air) by using harmonic vibrations. You can bend space and possibly time in different ways using energy fields.

If you can't get enough of this topic I suggest reading up on a scientist called TESLA. You will love the stuff you come up with.

My best,
Paraseek Admin (Will)


By Paraseek Webmaster (Admin) on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 12:43 pm:

PS...may I also add that there have been several reports of the ships appearing (in the future from where the experiment took place). So if it did move in time it is very likely its destination already occured.


By Devshb on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 07:50 pm:

oooh; tesla; he invented the cool sparky lightning/plasma ball type things, didn't he ?
I've just looked up a few things on the web regarding the philly exp, and it does indeed look as if there are real facts behind it.

I'm not too convinced about the navy's explanation of reversing the magnetic field of ships to form a zero-net magnetic field for the ships to throw-off mines' detectors, though. We can barely do that now with sound waves for anything other than a basic hum, let alone for magnetic waves of an entire ship which has completely different magnetic properties on all parts of the ship; that sounds like an impossible task to me.

I learned on the net from a u.s. government site that Einstein was employed by the US gov for military applications; that was new to me. Obviously I knew his theories kicked off the ideas for the bomb, but I never knew that he himself was actually involved in military applications. Learn something new every day, I guess.


By Anomalous71 on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 12:29 pm:

The actual scientific principle for this 'phase-out' is a form of the 'Anomalous Zeeman Principle'.. a Maxwell-Lorentz 5d representation, where Time is not objective, but subjective to the field in question. (see Faraday) Since this forum is not scientifically based, I will end here.


By JR on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 11:52 am:

I remember reading about the Philly Experiment some time ago, so my facts might not be 100% accurate...

I believe that many of the crew became ill due to radiation poisoning (the device used in the experiment was apparently nuclear-powered).

As far as Tesla is concerned, I tried many years ago to find his diagrams and notes on time travel, and found that much of his research was still classified (I also heard the government denies the existence of much of Tesla's research).

However, my search was done "the old fasioned way" of searching records and books at the library. Anyone interested will probably have better luck on the web.


By BitingWeasel on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 05:12 pm:

I'm new to this forum and I'm finding the discussions very interesting. You have, on one hand, the people who will clearly believe anything or come up with ridiulous theories simply because there is a connection in their head. On the other hand, there are clearly some people here who are serious and intelligently dubious about certain topics.
On the topic of Nikola Tesla, definately research this if you are interested in the Philadelphia Experiment. An excellent synthesis may be found at www.disinfo.com


By EAC on Thursday, November 7, 2002 - 10:18 pm:

As far I know.

What's seems to be reported is that the Eldridge (now it's named as Leon, and now it's a Greek ship) disappeared, show up in another place, disappeared again, them show up in again in its home port. And in one of its later attempts, but when it showed up again, some of the crews gone insane, missing, and even fused to the hull of the ship.

The time travel stuff that some people mentioned seems to be merely an addition to confused the subject, to deviate from what really happening. In other words, perharps it's merely a smokescreen to hide the truth?

Anyway.

What's more likely that the ship just shift dimension (not necesary time travel, but just shift dimension), that way it's invisible here. Only that then at later attempts, something goes wrong.

It's quite possible that IF the Phildelphia Experiement(a.k.a. Project Rainbow) continues (and it did probably continues), the transportation device (or perharps it's merely an activation device? like a garage door remote control?) could be now the size of a PDA, cellphone, and other type of digital devices.

However, it should be noted stories of people missing suddenly then appear again (in another place) already exist long ago since ancient times. And stories of things fading in and out also have exist since ancient times.


As for the Einstein.

I think that he's the one who specifically wrote to the President to use the Atomic bomb. So it's natural if he himself is involved in making the bomb.


By Paraseek Webmaster (Admin) on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 01:01 pm:

Well, since time and space are all connected, a movement in space is also a movement in time, relatively speaking.

So if someone could figure out how to displace an object, technically that is also time travel (albeit not the traditional type we see on TV).

Furthermore, if you can build a time machine, you've also built a matter mover. Its all relative.


By Ambrosios Galileo on Thursday, November 28, 2002 - 01:35 am:

Well im an astronomer and i have heard of some pretty trippy shit through my life. stars that can rearrange the molecules in your body to UFO vidios from nasa space craft. but this is fuckin wierd as shit man! its all got to do with quantum phisics. some aussies have made a teleportation device i heard that can teleport light, and i have some theories of my own that could change the way we look at space travel. this would have to be looked into more... einstein and tesla were more than likely involved. we need to go up to those fucking classified files and shit put lead in those guards head and get what we want... we've been blinded from the truth for too long, its time for us to know!


By JanusDragon on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 05:00 pm:

This is certainly an interesting topic, I'll have to research more about this in the near future. :)

I believe the files to the Philadelphia experiment will be declassified eventually, but as to in our lifetime or not, I can't really say. :\ Though I do hope they do.


By Richard leech on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 12:57 am:

Paraseek Admin
Hi, just browsing, re:Philly experiment. I cannot take this as real since in routine operation at places like Fermi Labs,CERN and wherever hi-energy physics experiments are being conducted..(there are many, try a search engine with 'tokomak' or 'magnetic fusion' or 'torus' or just 'high energy physics',...you will find nothing unusual even though magnetic field strengths are far exceeding anything possible in the fourties. Remember superconductivity...this was not discovered until very much later..

I have also experienced a voice from beyond on the 7th day after my wifes funeral. (just over a year ago) she died of cancer (very rapidly 4 1/2 mths). While still alive I had repeatedly invited her to join with me if she could and share me..........
Was not like thinking it was loud and strong...hestiant and totaly without accent/intonation or any thing except it was a voice and answered questions ( which are private)but I am now totally convinced of some type existance after death and probably reincernation.

At times I am mostly sure she is talking to me.

Will say quantum physics/mechanics is just about able to be considered as magic go read about it.


By Paraseek Webmaster (Admin) on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 05:20 pm:

I wouldn't assume technology in the 40's wasn't capable of what is assumed. Its how it was applied. And specifically what was done with it.

There are a ton of technologies in the past that were used and to this day we have to frellin idea how they were done nor can re-create them.

Technology advances, but LOSS...oh yeah, there is LOSS.


By Franklin_Reno on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 02:50 pm:

May i suggest a book from William L. Moore and charles Berlitz on this subject ,i read it recently and it was most informative upon the subject.

I know some specific information on the subject ,and are willing to answer any of the question on the subject as far as i can answer those.

On account of the sailers that were on board of the Eldridge of it's dissapearance ,a certain mysterious informant nick-named Carlos M. Alende made in the 50 contact with a certain dr. Jessup explaining the implication's of this experiment ,information that would spark the whole quest around the truth of the Philladelphia experiment".

At the moment of the test ,many of the sailer's became dissy and some of them had double sight.It also seemed to enrage certain people to the point that they became violent.Some other people just died due to the test ,and other's outside the actual forcefield seemed to either dissapear withought a trace ,or other (unknown and unrelevant) people just "appeared".But this is just the simple stuff noted by "Alende".More eari story's describe how some of the men were got literaly "embedded" with the ship during the transportation process.Another note was that some of the men were just dissapeared to never come back afterward ,thus after the activation or deactivation of the forcefield ,as thus after the experiment.But Alende also described the fact that ,after the experiment ,some of the crew from the ship had recurring situation's of of disapearenece's.Alende has once pointed out a small article pulished in a smal local gazette discribing a weird incident at a local bar near the experimenting site just after the actual experiment ,where the women at the bar got tottaly frithenend from some sailers in the bar wich supposedly did all sort of weird stuff.One of the crewmen would have for ex. have walked trough a wal to never come back.(ever again) 2 Sailers sitting on bar chairs just "faded" away from their cheirs to also tottaly disappear.The report however was written down by a local journalist that had very few reason to put any value in the statements of the woman serving at the bar when they reported those weird thing's to him ,this after the area had been cleared by a team of Millitary police.Alende also claims that some of this men had at one point been burned alive due to the fact that they had come to close within the vincinety of a compass ,and not "just" burn alive ,but burning for actual several days withought a clear possibilety to stop the flame's.Most of the men also had special recurring coma's ,where mentally they could "freeze" in certain dimension's ,giving them an all out other perception of time within that dimesion in comparison of time how we seem experience it.That is ,for as even if the person was only trapped for 1 minute in his actual coma ,his actual perception of time within that dimension was that of maybe billion's of years.Notably Allende seemed to pint out this specific point as the reason why most of the sailor's went eventually mad ,as most of the had these recurring coma's ,wich not automaticly led to the "freeze" condition ,but under certain circumstance's did.Alende believed ,as how i perceive this ,that mentaly these people were in other dimension that either could be a dimension even possible inhabited by "other" (even "humanoid") liveform's ,or a dimension empty super small in size0 (to the microscopical level)

Eventually ,most of the survived crew of the experiment were declared official nutcase's and put in several mental institution's across the U.S.A ,untraceable for the modern researcher into the case.This all to the account of this person called "Allende" wich is a highly secrative and controversial person.Yet investigation's have been made into the subject and people made the conclusion's that there was ample reason to believe that ,although it could surely be that Allende's remark's were a dramatized version of the fact's ,the amount of information was just so vast and so specific that it just had to have some sort of base that was correct.

Another thing is a statement made by 2 navy officer's ,Alan Huse and james davis who withnissed a person who camee to them to talk about this specific experiment as he had been one of the people on board of the ship.The officer's both took note of the statement's made by this person.And although there are very strong simmilarity's between the statement's of Allende and this ex-crw man ,both people made their statement's not knowing of one another as thus not using one of the other's material ,since none of that material had been published prior to the statement's made by both individual's.

There is more i can tell you about this case.Though most of my information is due to a written book that i thus highly recommend. ("the philladelphia experimen" by William L Moore and Charles berlitz")

any question's are welcome.


By Kroos on Thursday, June 5, 2003 - 02:50 am:

Paralell universes co-existing with our own is no longer mere speculation.


By Ursa Rotman on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 01:36 pm:

I wonder why nobady said anything about well known scientist NIKOLA TESLA, who was actually the main person in inventing tehnologiy that was supposed to use in Philladelphia Experiment.


By Someone on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 01:07 am:

Very interesting. I am an Electrical Engineer and I was told about the philadelphia experiment just recently. I was told that the Eldrige was wrapped with a coil and a magnetic field was created around the ship. This was done to make the ship disapear on radar but it was found to have really disapeared. They say that this experiment was done in 1943 and then again in 1983 and that recently the blackout in NY was around the time of the 20th year anniversary (2003). I was told that every 20 years the hole that was created by the experiment is suppose to open up. It seems that the Bermuda triangle may be something similar. A kind of magnetic field that causes things to happen that today we cannot explain.


By Nadja on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 07:30 am:

My dad told me about this yesterday. I have never heard about it before but now I've seen that there is information about it everywhere. Have I understood it properly if I say that there was some kind of generator on the ship that made something strange with the magnetfield so the time/air/space beant?


By OfficerK on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 02:08 pm:

No one will ever know, because no one ever seen it. If you must know there are certain secret locations across the North East that are not even on maps that with hold documents never before seen, even by future presidents. This area is called Dock-47.


By Richard baxter on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 01:41 pm:

From all of the hedging,stone-walling ,and outright hostility that I've gotten, there seems to be some connection between the "PX",montauk(spelling),and phoenix. Anyone care to comment?


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