Witches aren't obligated to be nice and to help. Witches aren't obligated to do anything unless they want to; there is no rule book. Just guides.
But your post is very helpful, Sunlion, far more helpful than the other posts in this thread.
All magick comes from within, and certainly not from the texts written by Gardiner or Scott Cunningham etc. Their magick worked for them in exactly the same way that your magick will work for you. It all starts with unshakeable belief in your ability to succeed, and then anything is possible. Trust me.
In answer to the original question, to form a coven, all you need to do is find thirteen likeminds who want to share energy and create desired effects by the shared energy. Nothing complex, and so theres no reason that you couldn't start your coven before you start your witchcraft. I would recommend some reading though, because the others will undoubtedly question your ability to contribute to their circle.
Don't be sold by the mystical talk of the Gods and Goddesses; the imagery doesn't matter two cents to your magick, and neither do the words contained in spells. If you want to achieve something, then write it down and visualise it happening; concentrate solely upon that happening, and then burn the paper in a flame. With the smoke, your will is projected and should manifest, depending on how much energy/realism is at play. Then I would suggest every night, reiterating your will so it is fresh in your mind and recharged with energy. Wait and see the results.
This is the basis of all magick. If you want it bad enough, then you can get it.

...Like most of us at one time or another have wanted to become a dark figure of some sinister evil presence and rule the sixth-sence of it all...The only deversion we faced is knowingly if we did follow through with envolving ourself with the dark forces, evil or not, regaurdless...We would have to learn how to live with the over-whelming rejection from our parents, friends, family, neighbors, loved ones...etc...The reality is that it only took most paranormalists two seconds to figure that reality out...Follow what you want to do with your life and you will do it...What ever it is...Good - luck... PROF559@AOL.COM

Now I my self am only 14 , but I have been in a coven and have been studying in the arts of whitchcraft , vampires ,using your phsi ability , and reading tarot cards since I was in the 4th grade , and putting it to use since 5th. fact is , you need to read up on the stuff before doing it , or you could get into some sever trouble . Also , "the Craft " can help you out . All but "the Glamour" stuff for changing your eye color and stuff (all though I do have a spell for that ) so any way , read before doing , God's speed ,and blessed be , man . -GOTHCHICK

Don't know what this thread has to do with the paranormal, but anyhow . . .
I've been an active Wiccan or Witch if you prefer, for over five years. My advice is the same as SunLion's - READ and find a teacher. Don't go forming a coven with your friends first. You wouldn't get some people together and play baseball if none of you knew how to play would you? I don't have the slightest idea why you'd need thirteen people. I've been in two covens, am training with a third and gathered with numerous others and I honestly don't think any of them had thirteen members - it doesn't matter.
But the God and Goddess DO matter. As SunLion said, Wicca is a religion, not just the casting of spells to get things you want. If you are seeking to shock people you will be missing the point. This religion is a LOT of hard work and study. It is not for everyone but for those of us who've chosen this path it is truely the best way for us to see the Divine in everything.
May you find a worthy teacher.
Blessed Be.

for one thing, wiccan's are obligated to love and hav peace, and not just do whatever they want. it is the wiccan's rede. once more, the law of karma is also faithfully beleived. you can't do anyhting that you will if it will effect the elements or anyhting that is meant to be. i know this for facts, so don't argue with a wiccan on wiccan beleifs- for those who would. if you are serious and seriously ant to be a witch, i would agree with the advice above and tell you to "read" and find a place for you to enter into the world of wicca. if you just want to mess around and play "witch" for a while.. forget this advice, it will do you no good.
luv and light,
leigh

Just out of curiousity...where do all you people get the idea witches have to be nice. I must agree with Anonymous on this one, all books I've read on the subject talk about HARMONY ... in my opinion this doesn't necesarrily(?)mean you have to be nice, this means you'll have to listen to yourselve and your envirement. The intention is to be as good a person/human as possible, this leaves a lot of room for your own interpretation.

I would refer you to the book of shadows as well as well as those mentioned by Sunlion. All great books.

But yes, being a witch is a responsibility to the world and not neccessarilly a means toward any power.

before you can be a witch/how well do you know your self, first ask your self that?once you know who!you are perhaps you can begain too become something eles other then what you already are.,we have been given a bad rap for centuries.,put down because or herbs curd the dieing,held the sick when there werent doctors,hospitals.,nurses ,exxxxxxxx.,we were put down by the church.,becuse or gifts came from god and the church new it so the burt and killed all they chould.,we were silint for a long time .,if a ameriacan indian medicine man is a witch.,then iam a witch.,we have a speacial connection too nature and all things on earth and in heaven have a sole.,the air the ground the sky the wind the sound it makes they all have there own souls.,we have been around a long time and will be here a lot longer.,as long as theres freesouls that love there selfs and others and there god

I'm 26 years old and I have been in to witchcraft for a very long time. Well as long as I can rember in my family line there has been witches.

Hi, I'm an adult male and interested in joining a coven in the Ill/WI area. Anyone know how to go about doing this?

well for one to be a true witch you must have a background of druid/druadick practices for at least 2'000/10'000 years or like back ground given sertian cultural heratige /two to rember that what you learn has maney back draws and that it can bite you in the but so drama major and that every thing that you see isent wht it is and that there are 100 to 500 differant realms of the paranormal and demonick life forces and what you call has the tottal ability of becomeing a secont sperit that can controll your body and mind /so rember in it harm none and that what you do can draw you in to madness / your truely a.l.f of denver

being a witch means you can punish people who deserves it you can use power to gain respect and inforce what is right or wrong there are no rules to bieng a witch but there is a strict guidline called the wiccan rede so do what you will be it evilor good

i would just like to say that you do not need to come from a long line of witches to become one. The Craft is a very unique way of life and should not be abused. There are guide lines that one can follow, that of the wiccan chivalry but most importantly the wiccan rede. There is no set way of incantations and spells and if you have study the craft for some time you would find that there are different versions. The most powerful incantations and spells comes from you, creating your own and believing them is more effective than reading off of a book. Witchcraft is neither just white or black but both combine just like nature her beauty can be violent or serine. you must make your own judgements on what you do, and what energies you want to send out, and if those energies happen to be of negative virtue than you must be prepared for the three fold aspect ofthe rede or a little thing called Karma. As much as the craft is seen through others, they see it as evil. And i often wonder why people fall into the stereotype of witchcraft, through negative energies, when many of us are trying to show that the craft is our way of life. For those who are seeking a coven if you find it hard to find one you are not the only one. There are places where the craft is next to non existent, and if you are like me I have to send away for my supplies. But you do not need a coven, you can practice being a solidtary wiccan or pagan. But you must want this, if you feel you need support then a coven is the way to go, or if you want to follow the ancient way and rules. I have a sister that shares my views and the craft is our way of life, it must complete you, make you feel fulfilled if you dont have this than maybe this path is not the way to go. Just like everything else in life somethings are good for some while it don't work for others. Also many people are intrigue by the arts and turn to them to be different and want attention, if this is your main goal from the craft or of casting spells than obviously you need to study more of the craft, or not at all. Some people talk freely about their choice of the craft, while I tend to only talk to those who respect my views. I will not sit and have someone mock me or my beliefs, so I use my knowledge only if the person is true of heart, and truely interested. So do what is right for you. If you feel comfortable expressing so than do. Many people may be closed minded and these people I do not share this aspect of my life with. So let the ancient ones guide you on your path. Sweet Blessings.

read your Bibles people, God is your only answer
to all the evil and pain in the world see God's light before its to late

To Priam-1, you should look on www.witchvox.com --it's a great site with thousands of personal listings. As for the initial question, I would do some research, studying, and reading before jumping into coven work. Wicca/witchcraft should in no way be taken lightly. The 3-fold applies at all times.

I am a witch and I can tell you how to become one.I just became one eight months ago.And I don't like to be called a witch, I prefer to be called a Wiccan.There are all kinds of websites that you can learn from and get all the spells you want.I got all of my Wiccan training from books I bought from book stores.You don't get powers like shooting things out of your fingertips; it's more like connecting to you inner spirit and to nature.Every woman is a witch.Men can become wizards.There are witchcraft supplystores you can go to and get all of your potion ingredints and spell books and cloaks and wands and so on.But being a witch is to discover your inner powers.You just can't wake up one day and say that you are a witch; it takes years to know if that is really what you want.You have to decide if you want to switch religions.Well, here is some websites to go to.spells.com,spells.org,blachmagick.com(I don't recondmend for anyone to do black magick,it is kind of wrong to do),whitemagick.com,witchcraft.com,and there are millions you can go to.You can go to google.com and get a lot of websites to go to.

Forgive the tag of Witch...I prefer wiccan too. However, in the context of this site, its easier (I think you would agree) to get new people into the topic with a name they can understand and know first, and then introduce them to the alternative names like you have done.

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Long lines:

I would agree, you don't necc. need to come from a long time. After all, when do these lines start, they have to at some point.

And, who knows, by you looking to get involved in the craft, you may have had an ancestor that was and you don't even know it. People are attracted to it for specific reasons.

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Witchcraft/Wicca/Stregia, whatever path you call your own, you must remember that it is a lifestyle as much as a religion. Being prepared to tread the path of the Goddess and God you must be willing to accept responsibilities for your own actions, this means that if you have sent out harm expect it back, sometimes it is threefold sometimes it is not. It is a religion that accepts others in their beliefs, we understand that ppl need a faith, and each person is an indiviual we are not devil worshippers we are natures children. For a vast array of information you could try avatarsearch, this deals mostly with all pagan beliefs

I have just begun to study Wicca,though I have been interested for years and have done accurate tarrot readings since the age of 12(I am now 35).
I truly beleive in nature and the Wiccan Rede and always have lived my life by it even though I never knew that was what I was doing.My entire life, I have never really beleived in the idea of God ,but I believed there was something else guiding me and have always been drawn to wicca (always wicca,though I never knew why),though I was always punished and even forbidden to even consider it.
But,now after all these years I ,for some reason ,Ican't begin to explain,just could not listen to those people anymore and have decided to do what I have always been drawn to,and very strangely,I have become much calmer and just more free,in general.
There are a few questions I have after reading the above posts though.
#1.Everything I have read so far,has told me that you make your own book of shadows,but someone posted aboved stated that you need to buy one,which is true?
#2.I have also read that someone that choses to cast spells must always have the permission of the person they are casting for,is this true?
#3.I don't believe that you need to wear cloaks and use wands to practice wicca,do you?
#4.In addition to the tarrot,I have also had vision and premonitions since the age of 10,some were so clear that I knew entire conversations by heart,even before the people speaking spoke.I have also had visits in the form of dreams about deceased people I know.
My question here is ,how much of this has to do with wicca? And do you think that there is some reason I have been drawn to this my entire life? And also,do you think there was some special reason I was always discouraged from following what was in my heart? (even now,my husband forbids tarrot or any thing else and I am having to study only when he is not here and I have to hide my books).
#4.Is the use of runes common ?
I welcome any and all responses to this post,

Here are some of my opinions.
#1.No,you don't have to buy a Book of Shadows;you can make your own out of your favorite spells.If you want to make it authentic looking then you can go to a witchcraft supply store and get a leather cover with it full of blank pages.You can write in all of your spells over time.
#2.No,you don't have to get permission to cast a spell on someone.You can choose your own path to use your powers.You can choose the path of black and white magick.
#3.No,you can decide if you think it helps any.Every witch has their own opinion.The spells will work the same way.But having a cloak and wand will help you fell the power a little more.
#4.I have been having premonitions since I was really young.I didn't become a wicca until eight months ago.I have always wanted to be one.I meditate often and that can help open up your mind to have premonitions.I have dajavu every day.I done a spell to strenghen my futere seeing and it is now stronger than ever.Wicca has a little to do with it but not much.I think people who has this , has a gift they was born with.
Here is a website that you can go to that will let you talk to people that will tell you about things that all of it means.You can talk to me on it.I am Angel-Aeris.Hope to see you there.

Wicca is something that I have always been secretly interested in, and have thought several times of becoming. Is there anyway to know if iti s the right thing for me to do, and if so please tell me how to get started. See I live in a small town in Ohio, and fear that there would be no covens here. Could I be a wicca on my own> I would love to hear from any of you on how to get strated and what books I would need. Please e-mail me! Hedges_4@yahoo.com Thank You.

I am 24 years old and have been a practicing Lutheran since birth, however I have always been and am still very very interested in learning more about witchcraft and possibly becoming a witch. Would I have to give up my Luteran religion to become a witch? And should I start by learning more information from books? There is noone I know of that could be a confidont or a teacher to me - Any Advice or websites for people like me that are just starting to learn?

Go to google.com and get a list of websites to go to.All of them are helpful.

I HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN WITCH CRAFT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. WHERE DO I FIND A TEACHER THAT WILL LEAD ME THROUGH THE STEPS?

Ive been interested in the craft for 4/5 years now, but would like to have someone who is more experienced in this field help me threw my journey, im not quite sure if i would like to become a full practioner or not due to descrepencies that i have.

What does wiccan witchcraft have to do with paranormal phenomena? What is the 12? What significance does the ring of fire hold?

i know a friend thats wiccan or wicca or something that.she says she studies spells
and makes fregrances.(she says its her religon).
i guess i believe her,i've been to her house before,and saw a whole lot of books that had to do withspells such as The Silver Spell or Circle of Stones ect,ect,...

What is with all of you? Witchcraft is NOT a religion. Witchcraft is a practice. Wicca is a religion (and if you as me a fluffy one at that). In reality there is no black or white magick it's all grey. And reading books about witchcraft does NOT make you a witch. Same with wiccan. To become wiccan (according to Gerald Gardiean the founder) you MUST be able to trace your coven back to his. And for all of you that think Silver Moonraven (or whatever her name is) is a good thing to read, you really need to learn more. All she is doing is fluffyfing witchcraft. Witchcraft is NOT used for good. If you said stuff like the threefold rule and harm none lest though be harmed (or whatever) 100 years ago to any witch they would have started to laugh their asses off.

You guys please i say please don't read silver ravenwolf. she has VERY little fact in her books.

solitary wiccan is an oxymoron. the WICCAN rede and KARMA are not believed by all witches. it is just the wiccans. get facts straight before you try to help someone else. reading will only geet you so far (silver ravenwolf will get you know where) witchcraft isnt a religion at all its a practice. its hard to find GOOD information on the net.

i also agree that all magick is grey because even spells that are intended for good also have their evil secrets that are often only revealed when it is too late.heed my warning and be carefull with the craft. it is more delicate than many people relize.

It was quite a surprise running across this site.
My family's history on my mom's side has a strong wiccan background-My mom has strong psychic powers and definently is touched by powers of the supernatural. And myself-I have noticed since I was about twelve, that I have psychic powers as well. But It goes so much furthher than that. Someone had written you have to know yourself-TRUE! If you do not-you will never be able to fully commit to Wicca and it's amazing practices. I do not feel you can just go to Borders and buy a book and then POOF-you become a witch. NO! It is in your bloodline. Many fear it when the signs begin to be noticeable-but the key is to give yourself to it. I feel that if you have these powers to any degree-when you begin to notice them, let your powers, your spirit, your very being .....just give into it. You have been CHOSEN-Not FORCED. If you give into your spirits urge to bond with nature-you can experience peace and happiness in many ways you never imagined. Wicca is not all about spells-myself-I rarely get involved with spells making them that much more powerful when I do. My power is with my Will to make things happen. I seem to be the one that gives KARMA a nudge at times when it needs it. But I need no spells, or supplies for this-it is in my mind. One of my teachers said that that is the best way to develop-on a solitary level. Learn to know your abilities and limitations before getting heavily involved with groups. Again-KNOW YOURSELF. This is just my view on this-but I have been a practicing wiccan for about 12 years-and I can say here and now-It is REAL- it is NOT book taught- and only YOU can determine how deep it will go by how you nuture your gift. But for those of you with only a book and a dream- Wicca is not a club or a team sport-It is part of your heritage. So forget about getting the library card-meditate, allow yourself to experience everything around you. I feel that every one of us is different. No powers are the same-no practices are exactly alike-but the bottom line is-once you do develop who you are and what your powers are capable of-it will be an experience unlike any other. It is Passion and exhileration combined with honesty and equality. Read the books, buy the supplies, and cast the spells-but remember: as good as it is-It is a powerful gift-not to be played with-But shown Total Respect.

I am a beginner in witchcraft, I study the Old Ways for 4 and a half years and I live in Greece which is a very difficult country for us pagans. I always new in my heart that this was my path. In my opinion witchcraft is a "craft" of the mind and of the bodies' energy. You work on your meditating and you use your energy by channeling it for a purpose that means very much to you (doing spells when it is Absolutely necessary). Witchcraft is not to be taken lightly. There are no nos and yeses and regulations in using the Craft but there is one Carmic "Law" - Everything that u do comes back to u times three. So this is why I have agreed with the saying An ye harm none do what you will. The Old ways are not only practising the Craft but also live them, not by pretending the rituals but actually feeling them and feeling the Gods and Godesses and give them your true blessings. By no means do not try to be a witch just for obtaining power. It won't work. Witchcraft is a pure religion though not all of the -so telling- followers are. Be carefull not to blend with groups that pretend the witches just to have sex or to gain money. True wisdom is in the heart (trust your heart, even when your mind says no). Respect your surroundings, Mother Earth, the animals, the humanity and their beliefs.
Blessings. Erinath from Thessaloniki.

It is quite amazing the people who call themselves a "witch".

I would NEVER refer to myself as a witch. I do however, practice the Wiccan Religion. I am a Solitary Eclectic Practitioner.

The most important book that I have ever read is the History of Witchcraft by Scott Cunningham.

I have read somewhere on this page that "All magick comes from within, and certainly not from the texts written by Gardiner or Scott Cunningham etc". There is some truth to that. I can honestly tell you that reading is knowledge. Everyone knows that. Have you ever heard the quote "Do you beleive everything you read?" It is up to the reader to decide what to beleive in but it also helps to have a guideline.

Spells - "Don't be sold by the mystical talk of the Gods and Goddesses; the imagery doesn't matter two cents to your magick, and neither do the words
contained in spells." Are you kidding me? Not only are words the strongest part of your spell but who do you think your are asking to help work your spell? Your brain? I don't think so sweatheart. Visual spells are just as strong however, you need to also visualize the god and goddess within yourself. Afterall, they are the ones that you are asking for help.

A Coven- "to form a coven, all you need to do is find thirteen likeminds who want to share energy and create desired effects by the shared energy." Thirteen? Try three honey. Thirteen is not neccessary although, you do need an odd number for a coven.

In Wicca, you beleive what ever you want to beleive in. You could have Christian beleifs and still practice Wicca. There is no right or wrong way to practice unless of course your intentions are harmful. Remember fellow Wiccans:

An it harm none, do what ye will!
Blessed Be!

Hi I am very interested in learning withcraft. would someone be interested in helping me out?

I have been a practitioner of earth-based religious thought my entire life though I was "raised" Catholic.
I remember meeting a practitioner of the old ways when I was 22. She stated that she "converted" later in life after her Baptist dogma failed her. She stated that Wicca put names and words to feelings she had her entire life. The ideas expressed in Wicca helped her to settle conflicts she felt following her Christian path. I find this is the truest statement regarding the path. If it is "right" for you it will ring true right down to your bones. Perhaps that is how we know we are on the right trail of the correct path for us.
In regards to what books to read or not to read... I feel all books should be taken with a grain of salt. If it doesn't speak to your inner spark it isn't right for you. As much can be learned from Winnie the Pooh as Gardiner.
Happy trails and Bright Blessings!

would like to know if anyone knows about a school in new mexico for pagans.. would like to go there and see what it is about???? please help me

I must say, all of your posts are correct in their own way. There is one very large misconception about this subject that I have read. First off, there is no such thing as good and bad witchery. If you choose to use the power as a tool of pain, then that is your choice. I also know that your power cannot be taken away from you for being painful with your magic. Everyone's power is their own. I suggest to read anything written by Cunningham if you wish to be a powerfull witch or warlock. You may also read books 1 and 2 of wicca to learn how to become a wicca. So, what's the difference in wicca and witch. Well, there isn't much of one. The only major difference is that wiccas believe in and harness te power of the Earth. Witches, on the other hand, believe in and harness the power within themselves. Both are very respectfull. In closing, it doesn,t matter how you use your power. That's why our religion was formed in the first place, to stir things up a little. If you wish to follow your ancestors and stir things up. start your own coven and do so.

You must be carefull, because if you do a good thing, it will return to you a good thing, if you do a bad thing, it will return you a bad thing. Like a boomerang it will return you. For example, if you make a storm and a person that you wanna kill dies, it can be that one of your relatives die. You have to be patient in your practices because not in your first shot you can reach it.

i need to know how i can find out about premonitions. please email me at moorek@kih.net

i need some advice from any psychics or people with the gift. i am growing and developing more and more as life goes on but at this moment i seem to be at a stand still with my knowledge and gift. can anyone advise or help me to develope more.
i have read the celestine prophecy.
a little light on the spiritual laws
stepping in to the magic.

i belive i have a special gift and wish to develope please help.

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The goal of a witch is to harmonize with nature and the God and Goddess. Wicca is the oldest religion, and it's had a lot of time to develop. You can cast spells, and do rituals. But not all witches choose to. I personal don't. Basically, Wicca 'worships' a god and a goddess. And that is the main differance.

This is a very interesting conversation. I have been wicca for about 9 months and really didn't know much about it until a month before I became one. But with a lot of dedication I know a good amount on it so I would be willing to help anybody out with it. (e-mail, rozy4@hotmail.com Please write wicca in the subject line.)I would like to also say that you don't need to have a wiccan background but it would be helpful, but I have noticed also backgrounds with some sort of magickal religion in it is. But it is not neccacary. Also to this post,

By Anonymous on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 03:50 pm:
read your Bibles people, God is your only answer
to all the evil and pain in the world see God's light before its to late

If whoever wrote this sees my message, I would appreciate that not to happen again. There is no need for it. I see the fact there is freedom of speech but still there is also freedom of religion so don't press your beliefs and assume without knowing that witches/wiccans are evil. Every religion deserves respect. Thank You.

i am fascinated with the beyond and wicca, witchcraft whichever you prefer to call it, i'm alwyas reading about it, but wish i could encounter it in real life

to adelyn... be careful what you wish for. to others that are looking for a "teacher" please be careful.... not all self proclaimed priests, priestesses etc. are what they seem to be. Watch their actions as well as their words. Use common sense and rely on other people's feelings about them as well. I got very messed up by a "priest" of Wicca... I know there are good teachers out there and I hope that all who seek will find their true religion and serenity. katma

you guys,don't tell me that witchcraft isn't a religon.tell my stupid friend that!(not mad)

I am not sure what to think about these postings. I have researched everything from witchcraft to wicca to psychics and ghosts etc...I have come up with my own conclusion. I believe first and foremost that EVERY religion is made up. Society was forced to create religion in order to keep order and to make up answers to lifes big questions. Second, I believe there is a higher entity that we answer to and as long as we live our lives to the best of our ability, we will all end up either in a good or a bad place, catholics, wiccans, lutheran etc.. Thirdly, I believe each and everyone of us has psychic abilities. Many of us dont know it or know how to tap into it and make it stronger. and lastly, we all, each and every one of us have the ability to make things happen, good or bad. It depends on the situation, your emotions, how much and the type of energy you put into things and wishing things as hard asyou can. I also believe that what you do will come back to you, as a matter of fact, it is a fact! I do however believe that some people posess much more than others. For instance, i posess an extreme amount of energy. I may sound crazy but for example, i make radio stations come into tune when i am in a room, i constantly constantly shock people when i touch them, no matter where i am. I give off so much heat even when i am freezing cold. I make things happen because i believe i can and they do.

I AGREE

actually i don't

I AGREE TOO,BUT EVERYONE MUST AGREE THAT BUDISIAM IS THE BEST RELIGION.

Actually anything can be a religion...it just takes context. As far as which is the best religion, why start that discussion. If you think you can win it then your quite insane, even if you are right, because it can't be done, not peacefully.

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i think everyone needs to accept that you can't say a belief is correct for anyone but yourself; we all have different views, and paths in life. And yes, I am a wiccan

you have to belive in the power inside to help the magic come alive. it also helps to combine the power of friends.

In response to some messages posted a couple months ago, I personally think it's sad that some people believe that genuine magick and power must come directly from their ancestors, it's something everyone can harnass from within. I also think it's sad that certain people are bothered by another's religion/belief and feel the need to post a message about "read[ing] your bibles, people." If anything, Wicca has taught me to treat others with respect, no matter what their beliefs/relgions are. This particular belief/religion (however you guys want to name it...although it's not worth arguing about) is open to interpretation, as is every other religion, it allows you to make the choice but also gives you a few helping hands along the way. You can make any choice you want, but you must also live with the consequences.

Im a guy im not sure if i hav wat it takes to be a witch its all i think about.If anyone can help me and i dont no anyone in tha georgia area that i could joinif anyone can help E-MAIL me.

For those wanting to become a witch, it is not just a matter of how but a matter of how much hard work and effort you will be willing to do. Knowledge comes from experience. I would suggest if anyone is truly interested in learning about witchcraft please visit http://www.witchvox.com Click on the appropriate state and then click on either adult groups or teen groups whichever works for you. There are also individual members that you might want to correspond with on a one to one basis, but group work is much more effective in my opinion. If you would like anymore information I would love to help and you can email me above. Blessed Be. LeAnn

Actually I just read a few more messages down and noticed someone saying that they prefer to be called wiccan instead of witch. By all means I must ask why. During the burning times the word "wiccan" was never used. Witch was. The word wiccan came about mainly when Gardner brought the craft out into the open. Back then it was spelled Wica with one "C". I, personally, prefer the word witch. The word wiccan is simply a nicer way of saying you are a witch to the unsuspecting society of non pagan believers. :) LeAnn

It is truly impressive how supportive the Wiccan community is to all who are seeking knowledge. In a world of so little tolerance for those brave enough to express their individuality, we need more people who honor the freedom of finding your own spiritual path. My experience with witchcraft was quite powerful and should never be delved into lightly. The spellwork I did materialized but not always in the way I had hoped. You know the old adage "Be careful what you wish for" had repercussions for me. When I read spellwork could open me up to uninvited forces, I panicked because I had no mentor and was not in control of the power I felt I had summoned. I no longer work with spells but have always honored the earth and continue to study herbal healing. I wanted to share my experience and in no way intend to offend any witches/warlocks/wiccans. My advice is not to take on more than you are prepared to handle. As far as forming groups, a stranger approached me to ask about my celtic jewelry and soon we were talking about Wicca. He was forming a group of people interested in studying together. It seems if you're ready to seek knowledge, others will be drawn to you in support of that pursuit. I hope this will be of help to someone.

What about the three fold law? If you do evil, doesn't it com back to you three times as bad?

being a witch is more then the movies its a life style you cant wear the star or pentagram adn call yourself a witch medal with a few spells and poof. it is a way of life whether you do good or bad it is the lifestyle you choose. it teaches you to listen to everything around you and always be open minded for you might miss something important going on in the world. i have been practicing "the old religion" or "the craft" for about 6 years now and i will tell you that no matter what level you grow to you are always learning. the best advice is to read find a path that sounds like it fits your personality and then try and find a teacher. in my experiance most people wont teach you unless you are around 16-18 without parents consent. and please dont do it to rebell against your parents religion or because it is the latest thing to call your self a witch because then you are already doing it for the wrong reasons.

In short of words I am a witch. I can be called one fo two names a natural witch or solitary witch. I deal with so called witchcraft on my own yet still pray to one God. I believe God guides magick to what it is... and to truely do and understand magick you must understand God. I have done many of things with my natural powers. I don't believe in calling them supernatural powers because all things can me explained, we just don't have the knowledge to explain them now. I am totally against use magick for evil but being a witch has caused problems to those who have hurt me. Harm comes to them without my saying. I'd never hurt anyone and never will in my own powers. It is God the protects me in my magick journey. I have no problem with wiccan but I believe they should try to understand how God has a part in it!

My personal beliefs are, for one to truly understand anything, one must open his/her mind. This in itself is the basis of thought. The basis of thought is the beginning source of magick. It is also the basis of science itself. One who taps into his/her knowledge must in any (or no) religion eventually use his/her intuition to make a decision or a discovery. No one knows where it comes from, or how it really works. Your sub-conscience and your conscienceness are the things that make possible all that you see around you today. This is called will. The basis of all religion is that you are alive. To think is to live. To have faith in anything is to trust your intuition, wherever it may lead you. Follow your mind and let it flow and you will be amazed as to what may come of it. This may sound like a little babble, but I just want someone to read it and take a second to think about it. Every war in the world was based on difference of opinion. Every one has their own individuality. No one man is right. As history has shown us that. What ever you will to be will be if you follow your mind and your heart, and that right there is all religion and science combined. There is a God if you believe in it enough. He may have many names, and he may be infinate enough to allow for more interpretation. No one knows all of the answers. Find yourself, and you will know what to do. Whether you are a witch, a wiccan, a catholic, a jew, a muslim, a budist, a taoist, a rastafarian... wherever your mind takes you will lead you to the right path, if you really listen, and that is what magick is really about. Willing enough, wanting enough, and believeing enough for something to come true (as the same basis of prayer in other religions) it will happen. And the more people willing it to happen, the better the chances of success. Chanting, praying, images, fire, candles, whatever helps you consentrate more on what you are willing to do, the better your chances are of allowing your mind to embed it into thought and allowing it to flow amongst the others to infuence, something that no one has words to describe. That's is my opinion, but then again, no one has all of the answers. -Perkins

I would love to be a witch to be able to talk to the parnormal and see why there are there and see if they are real or some made up thing in some ones mind

I come from a long line of so called witchs, and I find that it is good to look to books as guides. Not as what you must do or say, but a general idea of what or how things should be done. I learned from my mother who learned from her mother, and so on for many generations. Now being a mother of a wonderful 4 and 8 year old, it is my turn to step up and hand down the ways of our family, not the ways of a book. We hace a complete collection of guides, but we usually follow whats inside us. Good luck to all you out there looking to enter into this awesome adventure.

Hi my name is melissa i think it would be awsome if you could me a witch That would be crazy too...

I would just like to know why people are so unhappy with their lives that they want to become a witch which in turn try and change others lives?

little miss... Some people are weak and look for strength and solice in many things. For some people it will be drugs, or alcohol, for some religion, or maybe the thought of story book wonders, witch craft and magic just will take away the realities that these people face in thier either boring, or terrible everyday lives. For some maybe the extreme curiosity of something they know nothing about. Maybe the need for learning something new, or "forbidden".

The same as in any religion the belief system in which the organization is founded is written by a man/woman. Keeping this in mind...Man is NOT perfect and bound to mistakes. Many of these religions were started with good intent. Unfortunately every where you go there are hypocrites. So dont knock someones beliefs because there is abundant ignorance within the structure.

I come from a long line of "witches" NOT wiccans. Do I practice? Fortunatley I havent had to in a long time. The last time took the life of a loved one. To make a long story short...She tried to put a big whammy on me, and I called on every power to protect me, and did a little "I'm rubber you're glue" type thing, and her I'll intentions fell back on her... Fate takes it's course. (Your beliefs can hurt you) Dont blame anyone for your actions. the choices are yours ... so choose wisely. Everything you do good, or bad ... WILL come back to you. could be 20 years later ...but I'll catch up. We were given the vesels in which we act out our lives ... what we choose to do with them is our choice.

I also believe in many other religions. Most religions have the same structure, and belief system. They all want to be good, and do good. they just all argue about whos way is the right way or who to call what.
Two examples; 1)One person calls him "God"...the other person calls him "Jehova". You call me sis...but I know who you are reffering to ... does it matter that you spoke my name? If he is all knowing ... trust me ...he's not stupid... he knows....lol. 2) You take one road...I take the other. Maybe one of us struggled... maybe the other had help. but we both meet at the same point. Does it matter? No it doesnt... point is ...we both got there.

If you want to act like a crazy person you'll probablly become one...Go ahead ... dress in black, and hold up your dagger to the moonlight while reciting your pre-written incantations, and think you're a witch. Thats your choice. Gulliable people will believe you are witch....witches will think youre a kook. These are not the things that make you a witch. Being a "Wiccan" does not make you a witch. I'm sure every wiccan/witch wanna be out there is scowling at this truth, but there are ones that know.

NOTE: witchcraft is NOT a religion. The same as being a wood worker, and learning the craft of woodworking does not make it a religion. Some people are born with an artistic streak...some arent. Some witches are born...some arent. Your abilities are a gift. Some things are learned. You dont have to be a witch to have powers. Everyone has the ability to do wonderful things..and some not so wonderful. Theres a little bit of magic in everyone : ) The choice is yours to BELIEVE.

Healing herbs= Some practices or beliefs are gathered from other religions, and or cultural influence. When scientist went to the jungles they found what the natives use for medicines, (This is not magic. This is a lost art.) and then taking these herbs produced the same healing effects via pharmaceutical companys. some people put these ancient remedies to use and call it "magic". To the pharmaceutical companys ... it's hocus pocus and you are detoured away from it because how else could they make their millions.

A little bit of wisdom here: When someone thinks they know everything...thats when you realise they really know very little, or nothing at all.
Some times when you want something realllly bad, even pray for it. It might just be that theres a reason you dont get what you want. Things happen for a reason. I hope I did'nt offend anyone, or speak out of line. Just sharing what I know. What I do know I have studied, and has been passed on to me. Thanks to my wonderful teachers... My ancestors.

i have the abilate to levitat and move things with my eyes and i hve been able to do this for a vary long time

i started practiceing wen i was 4 and it has grown since then so i belive you

In reading all the messages posted here, there is one common thread - we all believe in what we know, see and feel to be the truth. No matter what you want to call it, it all comes down to Karma.

As I'm sure, most of you have either seen or felt what is to come for us as a country. I see it all the time, and it's getting closer by the minute. Your strength is what will get us through it.

As for magick, it lies within you. Everyone has alittle bit you can take with you, but in the end, your wisdom is your guide.

I am a solitary witch, sensitive intuitive and live by the rules of "honor all, harm none".

Merry Meet,
This has always been a controversial way of life and discussion, people have so many ways and ideas on how to and what may, coming from hundreds of years of bloodline practioners my family have all had their own way of doing things, which made each and every unique and we shared many insights, break-throughs and new ideas. There are karmatic laws and individuals knowingly out of respect either follow a guideline, as we all have some sort of compusive behavior to cross over them at points in our lives, We have all suffered persecution and banishment do to fear and stereo-typing of Witchery-warlock, but what makes us so great is our abilities to help or make will and as usual there are those select few who like to PERVERT something out of selfish reasons and RUIN it for others down the road, I have no glittery magick to shower upon those who seek out of curiosity or religion changes, but I can share honest insight and guidence from my life experinces. In this age of Monetary gains some people have SOLD-OUT and glamourized pagan worship drawing in all minds, so follow some sort of path or teacher who knows in their hearts the true meanings of Spirit, earth, Fire , Water, Wind because as in any situation one could take advantage of your loving desire to seek out your eternal path and direct you to something yu might regret later. It is my duty and obligation as a Practioner to share truth and knowledge and ensure your spiritual safety for some do get confused when in first stages of enlightenment, I had a mentor ask me when I was young which path I desired the Left hand or Right hand for I needed to know myself and direction I was headed for in my choice. Therefore when you sincerly devote time effort and mental clarity to any group you should be emotionally stable and patient because it is a long life of studious beckonings and endless rewards if your sense of devotion is unselfishly given and recieved by those who are either adeptus or magnus. Please always research and as in any scenario, be cautious. My life is a journey and my path has been chosen, I do read new literatures and manuals even with the knowledege I have attained, for I can never get enough or assume i AM GREATER than those before or behind, for I humble myself in asking of blessed forthcomings to share what was given . A witch, as Society deems me , but A burstig Star in heavens eyes, I call myself, for I shall shower tiny bits of bright ideas to spark a universe into a brilliant Flame. Varuza

Oh yeah, I forgot to telll you this...All the dark black clothing and eerie heavy makeup..well um hallows eve is around the corner, this is another misconception o Societies part real practioners dont dress like ELVIRA, you cannot even tell me apart from the next standing close. My family taught me to express myself for who I was and am not to be a circus star. Another STEREO_TYPING.

I am a merely a Watcher. I have been called a warlock which is not true. It isn't my doing that things work out the way they do just because it's the way I wanted them to be. That doesn't make me a warlock. As a Watcher, my purpose is to only present 'petition' bringing 'things' to light with my higher power. Things just happen.

i can't say anyones opinion is wrong because it is just an opinion, a personal outlook.everyone has their own view when it comes to withcraft and wicca. Though your magik is what you make it.If your intentions are dark ( if you trying to bring harm to others) then thats what you'll have returned to you.I personally have never wished harm on another but to each his own. I'm a seer/healer, i've been practing for quite some time now. And in it harm none, do what ye wilt. so mote it be!

Personally I have prefer the Llewellyn books to help out for on the art. But keep in mind, the practice of witchcraft is much like any other religion. (Yes, I catch a lot of flack for statements like that). Another really good one is "The truth about witchcraft today" by Scott Cunningham. Llewellyn also puts out a line of books for the solitary practitioner. Sometimes these books can be listed as neopagan. Important points to remember, there are as many different routes to this, as there are ways to get across the country on the roadways, so, before joining a coven, be sure of what you are getting into. Some require a public act of sex (usually with a high priest, I just think he's trying to build a harem) in the coven circle, before accepting you in, some worship in the nude (or skyclad, as they put it), some will make sacrifices of items ranging from incense and flowers to goats. If any of the requirements make you uncomfortable, then that is not your route. You can go elswhere, and there are some people who practice both wicca and some form of christianity, or muslim, or mormon. If one of the requirements involves desecration of the holy site of some religion, or reading of any prayer or holy book backwards, then that, my friend, is satanism, and is a whole different animal all together. Personally, I've never cared for Aleister Crowley's version, either. Sorry about being long-winded, but this is too important a matter to leave to chance. Also, I study comparative theology as a hobby, and teach classes through community ed. on things like fortunetelling and different religions (recently did one on African Voudun), feel free to e-mail me with questions. (and no, it's not neccesary to be lesbian or gay to be a witch, either)

I'm new to this although I feel I should have come here before I feel a power within but don't know how to harness it or why i feel as I do. I don't really know who to talk to about it so thats why I'm here if there is anyone who knows what I'm talking about please feel free to email me

Hmmmm.....Nomore17
Puberty perhaps?

I would just like to comment on how much diversity is in this world. In my lifes experiences I have learned that no matter how much you sound off and stand up for what you believe to be right there will always be some opposition telling you that you are wrong for having that belief. That opposition comes from people with very narrow and closed minds who stand before everyone and say that everyone is wrong unless they agree with their way of thinking. I had a strong christian upbringing. I was also enlightened to the ways of thinking of other formed religions, and I must say that in their own way they all believe themselves to be right. I have practiced the craft for over fifteen years, and yes a coven is helpful at times but if that is not for you than so be it. There is a lot to be said for solitary practice also. I beleive in peace and harmony and do as you will to harm none.I have become somewhat longwinded, I apologize. to anyone who would like to converse on this more please e-mail me.

Magic is a powerful and very fulfilling art. I've been practicing the arts of Tomekeeper from The Library of Knowledge for the last few years and find it is an amazingly dynamic art that allows you to focus on the skills that will best suit your needs. My only advice to people starting magic is to first understand Direct Magic then go into the nitpickies of Ritual Magic if you are honestly so bored. Don't get caught up in Lord/Lady, Blessed Be, Cast a Circle, or Chant a Prayer, before you understand the magics for what they are.

Greetings,
Lots of good advice above, but it all takes time. Don't get in a rush.....
You don't just wake up one day and decide to be a "witch". It is either in your heart, or it's not. You must learn, learn, learn, and then learn some more.
When you are living your life in balance with Nature, on a daily bases, without having to force yourself to follow some rule. Then guess what? Your ready to start learning...
Learn all you can about your ancestors, learn about the different Pagan Paths that might fit "Your Way of Life"
(( never try to change yourself to fit a path )).
Your "Power" and "Path" are already within you.....learning about your ancestry and their ancient beliefs and practices, will most likely bring your natural powers to the surface. Chances are, because of this "learning", your ancestors will have taught you how to use and control your natural powers.
If or when you find a "teacher", remember, a good teacher will only "guide" you to do what only comes natural and feels comfortable to you, and not want or force you to try things their way.

Blessings of Love, Light, and Laughter,
Papa Valkyr

It's amazing....I am 40 years old and a 7th generation Witch. I am truly amazed at the kids and adults alike that write here. I found this site by mistake. The misconceptions of Witchcraft are truly abound !
I wish you all the Best of Luck in all your Quests
Whatever it may be. Just remember what you put into it is what you will recieve....... If you are just looking for recognition for being different. That is what you will get......Empty;
Thoughtless ; Attention. Witchcraft is a very sacred thing......It is between you and the God/Goddess. It's not something to boast about, or run around saying I have done this or that. There is no need to advertise who you are or why.
It's a part of you everyday. It's your way of life. I wish for all of you to find the True meaning of Witchcraft. Once you find that.....I suspect I won't be reading all these messages anymore.
Thanks for the entertainment
K.

go to www,llewellyn.com and look for silver ravenwolf's to ride a magick broomstick or scott cunningham's living wicca they are both great starting books

God only knows!

i go not believe in these stuffs.thre is no ghosts and no withceh just try to walk with the science.and anybody who wanna be smart enough then taik to me.

Get a life people!!
There is no such thing as freakin magic.
Someone has too much time on their hands!!

hi im really interested in joining a coven too but how will i find if there are any in my area??? im really interested in the effects of scents and stones and was wondering if anyone knows a good read that gives lots of info about that aspect of the craft??? ive been taught how to visualise and also do exercises like psychic shielding and grounding and releasing. i find them really effective in calming and relaxing especially as im currently doing exams. id be really grateful for a reply. thank luvz from me

I really got a kick out of reading all these messages on Witches so I couldn't resist in putting in my 2 cents,First Witches do not have a religion so for them to call on a god or goddess for anything is obsurd we do not need any dogma of any kind to will our workings,intents etc, there are witches however that have religions but they keep that separte from their witchcraft,As far as those that don't believe in this stuff then why did you come in here,As far as the folks that are intrested in witchcraft there are alot of books out there and they all have their good with their bad my suggestion is learn about yourself and where you come from history about yourself has as much if not more magic then occult books,each of those books are someones views not your fact on who you are where you come from.As for the folks out there who may not have that info available to them read about your ancestors and what they did the countries they came from what they did there and so on,and the person who recommened Witchvox that to is a good starting point there is alot of diffrent types of paths out there and being a Witch is not for everyone.

After reading all of this, I must admit, I'm, if anything, more befuddled than before on the subject. I knew witches as an organization were, at best, disorganized, but the extent of it more than I ever imagined. It seems like everyone here has a different opinion on what it means to be a witch, along with the why's and the wherefore's. Of course, there are the inevitable down callers who claim it doesn't exist at all simply because they've never witnissed it. But in one form or another, I've seen and experienced too many... strange things... to simply write anything off that I don't understand, or havn't had a part in.

I suppose I would call myself a scholar. I'm interested in learning about this stuff. Perhaps a little delving, but I don't know that I could immerse myself completely in it. Anonymous seems to portray it in such a way as to be a matter of Superconcious. That your mind is your own genie, and if you convince your subconcious that it is true, the Superconcious will make it so. ...I believe that was Anonymous who made a similar corelation...

The power of the mind is indeed the most formidable of all... except maybe the heart. And I've been tapping into that for many years now. If that is what Magic is, it would bring many pieces of the puzzle together.

If anyone has any feedback, you're free to contact me via email. I'd be willing to exchange knowledge.

Being a Witch and succeeding in your spells takes alot of practice. U cannot acomplish a spell with just one try, expecially if its a black spell, never try a black spell if you are only a beginner. And not all witchs are BAD, to be a witch you dont have to be satanic, u CAN be a believer in God, it just depends on which Pentagram you are going for. If you go for the upside down Pentagram then your Satanic, if you go for the right side up Pentagram then you are a Godish Witch. And remember, What Goes Around Comes Around--especially in Black Magic.

I am looking for someone or something that can teach me how to use and tune my psychic ablilities. I have an understanding of how things come to me but I need to learn how I can control and manipulate this ability. If anyone can offer a suggestion as to where I can go to find a guide be it in human form or print, it would be appreciated. I am in Canada (Ontario) but I do have access to the rest of the world via the internet so ... if you can help, I would be greatful.

I have been into witchcraft for along time.my problem is i live in scotland.I do not no where to go or who to see.If there is anyone out there who could help me that would be great.I am 23years old and a male.

what are you guys talking about theres no such thing as witches and witchcraft or magic its all fake

I came at this site while I was going around and like it. I learned about wicca 10 months ago and I felt like home. I never believed in a God like the Christian one, now, and after a long searching I know I always was to become a witch. Some months ago, and after a preparation of 1 1/2 month, I did my self-dedication. I did it because I wanted and felt very ready for it. I feel very close to Divine and Nature. My problem is that I am a working mother of two and sometimes I feel I don't deserve to be a wiccan since my time is too limited and I don't honor the Goddess and the God as much as I want. I also live in a country that there are no covens or others like me. Any thoughts about? I would like to read them.

i have dabbled,be very careful it can come back upon you in a negaive way. there is no time on a spell . spells i performed years ago are now just showing completion and no longer practicing. so be very careful of what you wish for. be true to your yourself and do nothing out of selfishness. perform for happiness and peace and for cleansing of the earth. the Gods do have a sense of humor.

i wish that i win all of the rest of my basketball games this season and that i make more than 20 points in the next 3 games and that the homeless gets more money

I just wanna learn this craft for creating a peaceful and harmonious world around with no personal motive.

How can i learn to be a witch with out looking at something.I need a person live to show or tell me how to do it.

Being a Wicth, or men/women of nature, can not be learn from books. you, either have it, or you do not. being a Witch, or a seeker for truth with NATURE is a natural-biological-animal-instints, that we all posessed once upon a time. Now, only selected to those who, have the ability, and the WILL to seek it again. A wicth is a humble, un-atached, and free care person, with no dislikes or likes. (awakening of the animal instints within-ones-being). One may read books,to get the theory,the practice is where the real-you/animal comes in.

May this help you. WildWolf

I have been a witch since birth and the latest of a long line that has had a witch in every generation (its been recorded in our family history) since 900 A.D. Books are a good way for someone new to the concept of Witchcraft to get an idea of what it is lik but they are ultimately limited. Birthright does not mean you are a witch(though it helps to have that kind of support), studying books do not guarentee sucess either. You have to search inside of yourself for it, the powers that be are more responsive to a spell that comes from your heart and soul and not from another author. If you have no experiance, starting a coven is not a good idea. Groups need a focus and respond badly to weak leadership, it will cause more harm than good. Instead find an already established coven and join them. If you think that there aren't any look harder because we are everywhere always.

(p.s. there is no such thing as no personal motive)

also for those that wish to walk the gray line good luck to you. I pray that you find th strength not to be swayed to either side.

I have been drawn to the wiccan ways and beleifs for as long as I can remember. I became very active in educating myself the best I could. My grandmother (75) found out about this and became very upset. She told me that she practiced and lived the ways of wicca and nothing good could ever come of it. She would not tell me what exactly had gone on but insisted that I not get involved. Is this true? Is all magic dark?

"By Wildwolf on Tuesday, February 4, 2003 - 03:26 pm:
Being a Wicth, or men/women of nature,...
May this help you. WildWolf"

You sound more like a furry than a witch to me.

;)

I am seventeen years old and have been a witch since birth. My mothers family line is populated by african witches known as sangomas or witch doctors. These are not wiccans and are usually associated with vodoo. I've recently started sensing having feelings like slight intuite premonitions. Three of my dreams have come true and I have actually felt something before it actually happened, of course i'm not freaked out, this isnt melodrama this is for real. Wiccans, Electics, Midnight witches and Twighlight witches exist. Everyone calls us Seganush{Portuguese word for Gypsy.) witches exist and we're growing.

dear sir,
I found your web in the net,and i will not fear or shane to explain to you my major problem that is taking me to this very oganisation.
iam from a very poor family,No body to help and i have try what a man try to be call a man and all prove abotive.I want you to funish me with your real formation on how and what i will do to be a sucsesful man in life.
regard.
emmanuel james.

Hi,
this is going to sound REALLY silly, and it's going to make me sound like a loser,
but do any of you know of any love spell or some thing?
that sounds stupid, but i want to make this guy like me and we are friends and all and i REALLY like him, but my mom and dad and sister won't let me get any spell books and i was thinking maybe you could help me out?
all i need is a fast love spell, some thing that i can do so no body will know....E-mail me ASAP if you know any love spells!

Someone, have you read ANYTHING above????? If not, you should...

A few points for anyone interesting in learning about and practicing ANY form Magick related belief system. And I'm sure all those who have a solid background in them will agree with me.

Wicca, Witchcraft, Voodoo and all other belief systems that involve the practicioner(s) using ritual, chants, etc to manipulate energy forces, cast spells, invoke spirits, etc, involve a GREAT DEAL OF STUDY AND LEARNING. Do not think that you can just cast a spell and it will work. It may, but perhaps not in the way you thought it would.

There are a large number of books and groups out there that can teach you, it's a long, involved and lifelong process. I myself have been learning and practicing since I was 14, and I'm 30 now. And I honestly see this continuing until the day I pass on. For many of us, this is a religion, as valid as Christianity, Judaism or Islam.

Wiccan's have a part of their rede that I think would be good to put up here. "Each deed ye do comes back upon ye threefold." That means, if you work magick to help, or to protect, good things will happen in return. If you cast magick to harm or to manipulate someone against their will, well....watch out.

Do not go jumping in to something like this without thought. Do not go casting a spell without being 100% certain of what you are doing and what result you want. Do not go joining an existing coven, circle or group without being certain that they are on the path you wish to travel, as each is different and varied. And remember, learn, learn, learn, learn. They won't let you be a doctor without a good many years of study, frankly I think it should be the same for someone who wishes to practice any magick based religion.

anyone know anything on dreams? or what a wolf symbolizes? i have had this dream with the same wold over and over for years. He comes to me and walks around me n circles. Im always outside. im not afraid either. i know this isnt a dream site but was just wondering if anyone might have any ideas...

Which hand does one where a pentagram ring? I've heard that the right hand receives and the left one sends, or vise-versa, could someone set me straight? Thanks
Practing witch in the mid-west.

My Friend has been prcticing for over fifteen years and I have been for about five. In that time I have come to greatly appricate the power of the earth. We do not harm anybody or anything in our practice. But we have come to gain a few enemys in the past because we will not help bring friends of theirs over from the other side. I would really appricate it if someone could possibly help me to find a way to explain to them that you do not disturbe the peace of the dead. That when you bring them back they are not who or what they use to be. That you are disturbing a soul at rest.

"Do what thou wilt, be the whole of the law.", as quoted by Aliester Crowley. This is true, but be mindful of the consequences a.k.a karma. If you had not read the post titled Bliss on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 06:14 pm I'd advise you to do so there is a lot of wisdom there. I have done a great deal of studing on magic/witchcraft but most of my powers are inate abilities that have flowered since the discovery of my true self. I agree with those that state that witchcraft is not a religion, but I also disagree, for if it is a religion of self discovery and the journey to godhood. This path is not without peril, many would have to deal with both personal demons and demons that are external forces at work in one form or another. There are many religions that have magic as part of the structure ( there is wicca for those of you who are pagan and there is the rosicrotian order for those who are "christian", please do not take offense of the one god generalization.) these are fine if you choose to do this. The path that you choose is up to you, but please do learn all that you can before you start. If you cast any spells, whether for you or for your personal gain or to even harm another make sure you do it properly ( or someone like me will have to clean up the mess behind you.) There are a lot of "forces" at work in this world, some good, and some, well, not so good, a spell cast incorrectly can be used to do harm, even if it was originally intended to do good. Be careful.
Of my own personal experiences they are far too many to even begin telling, many would suprise or even baffle the most seasoned of practitioners. I learned all that I could first.

i want to learn how to be a better witch. i'm asking cuold you help me.i want to learn more magic and i want to learn how to ride on brooms so please help me

One has to be born as a witch. There are no recipes, to become a witch. It's a heritage, it's on the blood and genes. You may try, but you never will get there. You may become a sorcerer, but to be a witch you have to belong for the cast.

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To those who understand the mystery, no explanation is necessary; to those who do not, none is possible. I have to agree with a previous post, which mentioned the post by Bliss on 9/16/02.

Esoteric knowledge is such for a reason. Most of those claiming to be "witches" these days are misconstruing the original craft and focusing solely on neo-Pagan teachings. That's not to say it's a bad thing. The true and honest seeker will eventually find his/her way.

Those with true knowledge are often shunned by those among the neo-Pagans who claim to be "adept" 25th degree This-or-Thats of the Shiney Hiney Clan;) The idiocy and flamboyance of those in the "public eye" claiming to be representative of witchcraft aren't seen completely as a bad thing in some of our eyes...since it takes the focus off the true nature of our craft and keeps it hidden and "esoteric" as some of us believe it should remain :)

"Becoming" often isn't an option. Meeting a kindred spirit can sometimes lead to a discussion, which may lead to a thought ('hey, s/he thinks like me...we need to talk more'), which often leads to the sharing of knowledge. Witches I've met throughout my life I've met in that way. When I meet a kindred soul, I share knowledge that was shared with me by family members. I definitely don't share with just anyone...it's almost something you can sense - when there's a trust there that you don't normally find.

Wicca is a religion/spiritual path; witchcraft, on the other hand, is a craft and a body of magical techniques that's usually passed by word of mouth or through one-on-one teachings. It definitely is not something to be taken lightly. As I said, esoteric knowledge is such for a reason, and there are those among us who are glad that it's stayed that way:)

hello im looking to join a coven and uh i kinda live in pa and i was hoping to see if neone could help me find one

I would like to know more about witches and warlocks and what books are the best for spells...
I have always dreamed of things that come true, but don't know how to bring out the full potential of the power...
Also have had some dealings with the paranormal

How does one determine that they were "born" a witch?

Everything that is created or done in life comes from energy. The energy in yourself, and in all objects around you. When you learn to respect everything and its energy (including yourself), than you can harness it, and try to use it for a specific reason. Its not mystical and old and inherited, its scientific. Einstein said "Energy can not be created or destroyed, only harnessed". I definately believe in karma. If you can attract 'positive' energy, you can attract 'negative' energy. Connect yourself w/ everything in your environment, and see what things can happen. You don't need a book to tell you that. Use your own spells, prayers, etc. They are all the same thing, and have all been started by someone like yourself at one point.

i sure don't belive in this stupid shit but if you want me to believe send me something on my mail to make me adi@rediffmail.com

no one has answered the question, how does one determine if one is born a witch!
and i resent the fact that 'eletzerich' thinks one should be born a witch to be so... and how do they know? who told the first witch s/he was born with the craft?
Think about things first before you say them next time eletzerich!

ive been interested also in wicca. nobody knows but me because i dont want people to think differently. i dont practice witchcraft but ive always been interested.this stuff intersts me deeply. i dont know what to do. so if someone could email me and let me know i would be greatly appreceated.

i am all most 14 and i have studied books on monstes and magic and am afraid to use it and wondering if you would like to know a little

p s
i am not some messed up freak so try and e-mail me at bolet_ton@yahoo.com

I too would like to meet a teacher. I feel something powerful within myself, but I need the proper guidance to use this power wisely. Please e-mail me if you think you can help. Please make sure to put witchcraft under the subject.

Thanks

I want to know how to switch lifes and bodies through witch craft. if any bodie knows how i would highly appreciate it.
,Tom

i am interested in witch craft.

and i really really want to become a witch what do i do to be a witch

email me angelfromhell60@yahoo.com

how do invoke the spirits to bring me power?!

I keep trying but with no luck!!

Witchcraft is a powerful thing. Use it wisely. You should help others and not just use it for personal glory. You shouldn't hurt others but help the world. Forever may the power live among us and forever shall we all must show that we are not freaks but Gods creatures and have a right to be here just like everyone else.
Peace love and happiness

I wanna know how to be a witch

im karen trubilla an im 19. the reason why i want to be in a coven because i can do things. i can make it rain on only me,i can bring dead animals back to life an i can erase memory an i can wish an somtimes it comes true and i have day sha feww all the time and i got ghost out of someones house. my mom has dreams an then they happen an she has dreams of things she cant possibly know an she sometime knows things an people think shes crazy an they happen. thats why i want to be in a coven to learn bout my power an to disscover my self.

Hello,
I do wicca I don't think of it as a religion but as if it's an art and all you have to do in close you eyes and imagine what you want happening although wearing a crystal around your neck is helpfull.

My name is Kristine Engel and I have never tried anything such as this. I have always been interested in witch craft related topics because I had an old friend that was a witch, but I haven't been able to talk to her in over 4 years. If anyone could offer me information or anything, please contact me at krissyqueen90@hotmail.com.

ive been looking for incantations on all sites for atleast 4 hours all i want is some chants !!!!!!!!!!!!!!where can i find them

i found a really good website!! www.puremagick.co.uk!!! go to the witchtree for spells and stuff!!

HEY WEBCS,this is independence5.SHUT THE FUCK UP.iknow what i am talking about

Hi everyone, I have read about witch craft and spells. For some reason I feel the need to take part in it. I have dreams about it all the time. Of me as a Wiccan or witch. I get eerie thought about the world and it's place on spirits.. I need to know why. Why I lay there at night wondering how spirits are the way they are and who thought up god or any other religion. I hope some one contacts me or answers my questions. I would like to learn witch craft

Hi everyone, I just stumbled in here and boy do I have alot to say. My birth name is Renee, my magickal name is DarkRaven. I am 25 and live in Charleston, SC. I have been studying Wicca for some time now and have been in the Wiccan Circle for the majority of my life. I want to comment on the majority of these posts. I am seeing things that are just IMPOSSIBLE and UNTRUE! and honestly, as a witch I am offended. People CANNOT make it rain only on them nor can they bring dead things back to life, this is something only HOLLYWOOD can accomplish. As for a very earlier post where someone stated that witches are not obligated to be nice and help WE ARE! It is called the Wiccan Rede and a main part states "and ye harm none...do what ye will" ANYONE who is interested in Wiccan knows this BASIC principle. People are talking about wanting to be in a coven the way some talk about being in a gang. You will not find yourself in a coven, you will not "discover your power". That is all done on your own, thru studying and working at things. Pick up a book and learn something, there are TONS out there. You may be "born" a witch - by "born" i mean someone with a natural ability to harness energy. Things get handed down for generations in what some call "A witchy family" it is called A BOOK OF SHADOWS! For those of you who are quoting Alister Crowley - STOP! Crowley was a SATANIST which has NOTHING to do with Wicca. Some of these posts must have been put up by very young imaginative minds. You cannot "switch" bodies - you can use your mind to feel as though you have, maybe take you to a past life or to a present situation that you would like to see helped, but you cannot physically change bodies with someone - that again is for HOLLYWOOD to do. Witches dont "do things to change others lives" - we are not allowed to invade anyone with out their permission - Wicca is not about shows like "Charmed" or "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" the three sisters have the right idea - your spells should be things you have written, they work best because they come from you - Willow has the right idea that Wicca is for helping and Healing - Dont get me wrong, I love BTVS, watch it every day - but still you will never be able to make sparks come from your fingers or silence a whole room so that you can hear whos talking - YOU PEOPLE NEED TO READ ABOUT THE TRUE PATH OF WICCA AND STOP TRYING TO LEARN FROM THE TELEVISION! There are great groups at yahoo.com that can help you on your search - go to your local library and do some research - Wicca is a state of mind - you will NEVER proform mericals or levitate or any of the stuff you see on TV! If you want some honest help and are truelly interested, and not just in a "phase" email me at blackestday@yahoo.com and I will help you. For all you others, kids and adults alike, that have this Hollywood image of wicca and you think thats what it is - GET A LIFE!
Blessed Be
DarkRaven

and for further reference its De Ja Vu ! not hay sha feww! and if you do want to read try
Bucklands Complete Book Of Witchcraft
anything by Silver Ravenwolf, LLewellyn. Gerina Dunwitch or just type WICCA in your internet search browser!

Just a point of note- though true Alister Crowley had nothing to do with Wicca, neither was he a Satanist, he was a practioner of high magic which does deal with demon summoning and the like but does not follow the same teachings of a Satanist. It's a bit like calling a suni muslim and a shite muslim -"Fanatical Muslims" when they have some similarities but are not at all the same in practice or beliefs. I believe that the Freemasons share more incommon with Crowley then the Satanist.

Oh and "Never"- seems a bit out of place when discussing anything within the magical realm. Tibetan monks have been known to levitate and Gi Gong masters able to move things by projecting Chi. See Bill Moyers " Healing and the Mind" if ya would like to see it for yourself- tho can't believe everything we see- or read.. can we..

RIDICULOUS! Stop telling these kids they have to be wiccan or study Druidism to be a witch. "Witch" is one who uses energy to change things. You may be any kind of witch you want, and YES miricles DO happen sometinmes. The owner of this site is a neglecting to tell you MUCH!@ Seek further advice from someone not so narrow minded.

To you Christians who come here preaching..if we did that on your Jesus sites we would be banned and outrage would follow. Yet, you who speak of values feel free to condem. Hmmmf!

To you Christians who come here preaching..if we did that on your Jesus sites we would be banned and outrage would follow. Yet, you who speak of values feel free to condem. I see not much good in you. Hmmmf!

i want to be a witch. i want to practice withcraft. can anyone please tell me what to do.

Amen to Renee. Beyond that, I will Keep Silent.

En Libre -
I am just wondering where you get that Crowley was not a Satanist...Did he not write the book called "The Satanic Bible" or the book called "The Satanic Rituals" or even found the first Church of Satan? Was he not the first ever ordained minister of said church? Now, where I come from all those signs point to SATANIST...Yes he was a practitioner of High Magic - which does involve demon summoning - and I know many Wiccans that are practitioners of high magick also. It does not necessarily mean that you are evil, its just that the spell you were doing called for some extra umph.
This is to everyone - I have said it before and will say it again...If you are truelly interested in the Wiccan Path just type WICCA into your favorite internet search engine, you will get thousands of hits, go to your local public library, hell even here in the bible belt there is a pretty decent selection of books. You can also go to www.groups.yahoo.com and type in wicca to find a yahoo group to help you on your journey, you may even be able to find someone who is willing to teach you things. There are soooo many options out there, if you are truelly interested and not in just some phase then you will find your way - do not push yourself into this path, it may not be where you truelly want to go. Also,reading a book does not qualify you as a Witch - that status has been known to take years to accomplish. A true witch knows about herbalism, and healings, and while I dont agree that you have to do a spell to a particular God/dess to get a result many people do - its all in how you choose to go about it. What you choose to base your path on, there are Eclectic witches (me) who take bits and pieces of everything and put it to use for themas they see fit, there are Druids, and Gardnerians and a whole buch of others but like christianity we all believe in the same thing - its never how you believe its what you believe that gives you the end result. Take time and make sure you want this life and then take more time and learn - learn the way wicca was and how it was hidden for so long and brought back about in the 1900's and read about where it is heading today and how to construct spells and I could go on and on...Basically, just learn what you can at a pace that is good for you. And a simple word of advice - DO NOT ever refer to yourself as a Witch until you can show your knowledge and abilities, there is nothing that a real Witch hates more that someone claiming to be a Witch and not knowing a damn thing about wicca. Its kind of like telling someone that you are a Blood or a Crip and now knowing any of the secret little things that come along with those gang associations.

And Shhhhh... Thankyou!
Be Well and Be Blessed

well...hello!read all the discussion and was quite sucked in i could say.the thing is i'm an 18 year old girl and really really really want to learn more about wicca and witchcraft.the bad thing is i live in greece(terrible uh?).i don't want to sound just like any crazy rebelious teenager trying to make a difference(like most above).let me explain...my mother is from ireland.all my female relatives from my mother's side are "sensitive" and i have inherited the gift.i yet don't know how to use it at all.
i would be really greatefull if you could help me.really really gratefull.
e-mail me any time hellothisisjoy@yahoo.com
blessed be :)

To Renee and Everyone Reading this List:

Crowley did not write the Satanic Bible, which was written by Levay. Crowley was a very powerful ceremonial magician. His style of ritual was one of the bases for the Wiccan style of ritual. Crowley did call himself the Great Beast but that is because he found it funny to shock people and for other non-satanic reasons. Crowley was not a Satanist. Satanism as a movement did not really start until the 60's. Actually, the Wiccan Rede might actually have been based off of his ethical rule. Wiccans have a lot more in common with Crowley than most Wiccans realize. I do have good solid research to back up these statements if anybody wants it.

I do agree on some of your (Renee) points about Wicca/Witchcraft. It does take hard work. It does take training. It does mean taking the harder road most of the time because of ethics. It means finding the truth before speaking.

If people are interested in practicing Witchcraft, please become critical thinkers first. Many resources are available to those of the Wiccan Path but most of them are fluff and repeat the same information. If you desire to practice Wicca, I would recommend books by Scott Cunningham, Doreen Valiente, Stewart Farrar, and Robert Buckland. These authors are to be trusted. Silver RavenWolf's first two books Silver Broomstick and Magick Cauldron are good but in my opinion her latter books are not all that hot. Who needs a thousand ways to cast a love spell?

As for people writing their own spells, I found this hard the first I did it. I would suggest using premade rituals out of the books that I recommended. I would adapt them to your particular situation. Whenever you get inspiration for a ritual, write it down but do not put it in your Book of Shadows, which is for rituals that you have successfully accomplished. Many people have stated that personal spells work better. I generally agree with that reasoning; however, I found that many "traditional" chants such as the Witches' Rune by Valiente are powerful and life changing. I believe that it is up to the individual to figure out which works better with their gifts, not everyone can write beautiful ritual.


Well, these are my two cents. I stumbled across this list and got trapped. If anyone has any problems with anything that I have said, please post to this list.

Thanks to the creators of this list.

I have another point to make today it seems.

After reading your (Renee) message closer, I realize that you might not understand magick and energy. Magick is the utilization of Qi, Chi, Prana, etc. to perform some action, whatever that maybe. By building your Qi field you can learn to do many amazing things such as heal people by placing your hands in their field. Magick is much more than a "state of mind." I have been witness to healings and have had friends healed by magick. You can do amazing things with magick.

Using magick, you can fly or change your shape. You can go into the dreamtime(journey work)and do either of those things and it is real. You can enchant a mirror to show you what someone else is doing. These things are possible but they take lots of energy, work, and knowledge. Also, help from Spirit would be nice.

If people want to learn how to silence a crowd as with any magick, you need ask them first, WHY? Why do you need any of that stuff but to affect other people and to show off? Do not seek Psychic Talent but seek your Higher Self instead.

People need to understand that Wicca is a spiritual practice that is real. Spirits are real. The Gods are real. Magick is real. It is much more than a state of mind. I have found that many Wiccans do not actually believe that magick works. It is like ritual is just celebration or religious trappings. It is much more than celebration. It is work. It helps you evolve into the person you are becoming.

Well that is it for me today, I think.

Adam
I do stand corrected, after reading my post about Crowley I realized mt mistake just being upset caused my brain not to function correctly. You must understand that I keep up with many discussion boards concerning Wicca/Witchcraft/High Magic so I do have a tendency to miss communicate what I mean. **After reading your (Renee) message closer, I realize that you might not understand magick and energy** - I do understand the difference, but to me there is no difference. In my path it is one in the same. I do not follow a certain path of Wicca, I am what i like to call a Solitary Eclectic Witch. Combination of energy with magick is necessary as is the other way around. My entire comment about siclencing a crowd was directed to those of us that watch Buffy The Vampire Slayer, refering to the episode where Tara and Willow were in the Bronze and having a fight - Willow just popped out a few words and the room went silent so that only her and Tara could be heard....these things are not possible though you can attune yourself to hearing better within a group you cant just "turn down" the volume. Other than that I totally agree with all you say. You seem to be a steady person.
Be Well and Be Blessed

i know what you are going through i would love to bve a witch too. but i don't know what to do?
i spen all day at the liberary trying to reshearch witchcraft, wicca and anything else that has to do with the subject. i just can't seem to find any thing usefull. so if anyone would like to give me ant tips i would love that.

see ya later

I personally have just decided to junk quite a few notes on wicca (just read this is prononced "witch-a", go figure)because I realize that it IS a personal thing and am going to go back to do what felt right as a child. Follow my instincts and heart. I was never able to imagine a higher energy as a physical being, god or goddess. To alot of beginners out there, forget a teacher. Let life and nature teach you. Follow your gut. And always remember whats right for one isn't necessarily right for another.

Best wishes

To Everyone, who is searching for a Teacher:

A good Teacher can be amazing. They can help you develop a strong, cohesive spiritual practice. A good Teacher can help you figure out what is appropriate for you at this specific moment in your life. They will become available to you at the right point in your life. If it is not the right moment and you get a teacher, you will not learn everything you can from them. The relationship will not be as full as it could be.

What should you be doing while you are waiting for a teacher? Practicing Wicca because Wicca is an active religion. If you are waiting for the perfect teacher and not practicing on your own, you will be missing out and not developing into the person you are becoming. You can practice Wicca and many other spiritual practices without a teacher. I did it for several years but it is harder. You must be more diligent with your practice. Are you practicing Daily Devotions, Grounding, Centering, Shielding? You must become a critical reader and thinker. You must practice both the theology and the magickal parts of Wicca. If you do not have a teacher or a group to work with, you should still be doing sabbats (solar and cosmic alignment holidays) and esbats (full moon rituals). These practices will expand your practical knowledge of energy dynmanics and the Divine (the source of everything). You should be WORKING through the proper books, not just reading them. If they list ethical work, practice it. Figure out what works for you because when a good teacher comes along, you will be able contribute more to your lessons.

In addition, you should be practicing these basics until you have gotten a strong grasp on them before attempting more advanced work such as full group ritual. If you attempt advanced work before you are ready, most likely you will accomplish nothing, which will create doubt in your mind. If you do achieve results, you are lucky, not a "natural witch." You also run the high risk of frying you energy field. So just take it slow. Really get a grasp on the basics (Grounding, Centering, Shielding, Projecting Energy, and Daily Devotions) before attempting advanced work.

These are the tips that I offer to those who are seeking Wicca Teachers. Teachers are out there, just prepare yourself so you can get more out of experience.

Adam

TO Renee:

Thanks. I do agree with you on many things. I hope to hear more from you. I enjoyed communicating with you.

I have another point to make today.

I have been reading many people say things like, "I am a natural witch." or "I wish I was a Natural Witch." "How can I tell if I am a Natural Witch?"

Now, I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings but I must do it to get this misunderstanding to end. Everyone is potenially a natural witch. Everyone is born with the ability to channel Qi energy. Everyone is born with the ability to practice Wicca, which does not mean that everyone should be Wiccan. Anyone can practice a religion, not just a certain few. Wicca does not exclude anyone who wants to learn. No one can tell you that you are meant for Wicca or a "Natural Witch." Only you can decide to practice Wicca and develop your energetic abilities.

Yes, some people seem to be "born" with psychic powers but that does not make someone a "natural witch." It makes them gifted in certain areas of Wicca/Witchcraft. If you exhibit talent for clairvoyance, great, you can develop this skill further and use it to help others.

I did not exhibit any signs of psychic abilities before I started to practice Wicca. I practiced and practiced. I did rituals and my basics. Now, I can do things that many people would describe as psychic. These skills do not make me special. I developed these skills to further my understanding of the Divine and to help others.

If people tell you that they are a "natural witch" or that you are a "natural witch" ask them what they mean by this statement. If they actually mean psychic, correct them. Wicca does not need this phrase anymore.

If they make a big deal about them being a "Natural Witch", just ignore them. They are most likely seeking attention, which will get them in trouble eventually. Usually, attention seekers have low self-esteem and are using Wicca as a way for creating self-esteem. "I am so special... I am chosen to become the most powerful ..." If someone uses phrases such as these, realize that they are most likely puffing up their self-worth.

As far as I can figure, a "Natural Witch" as meant above comes from the movie the Craft. It is just a movie, which used partly the truth and mostly Hollywood make-believe. Magick does not come easily to anyone. It is hard work and should be respected.

Remember in Wicca, We have no chosen saviors, just people who are called to do hard the work to help themselves and others evolve into the person that they are becoming.

Adam

I haven't had time to read all this stuff but anyone who gives you the "love and light" routine is talking crap. Witchcraft is not about love and light - it's about real life which most of the time isn't like that at all. You cannot become a witch - either you ARE a witch or you're not. If you don't know whether you are or not - most likely you're not. You discover it very early in life - usually as a child.

Gina Smith and to Everyone Else,

You are right, Wicca is about "real" life but mostly, it is about taking the ethical road in real life. I have experienced that "real" life is about love and respect if you choose to make it so. Wicca, like most spiritual paths, is about growth and evolving into the person you are becoming.

It is not just about psychic powers, spells, or rituals. All of these things are the tools for spiritual and personal growth. I know that these tools can be used by everyone, not just "Witches."

I have done powerful rituals and healing sessions with people, who would never consider themselves to be "Witches" or "Wiccans." I have also done rituals with people, who say they are "witches," and they could not keep up with the energies of the ritual. Titles and desires do not make a Wiccan. It takes practice, growth, and ethical decision making to make a Wiccan.

Wicca is a religion and spiritual growth path, which is open to everyone. Wicca does not chooses just a few.

Adam

Remember: Inside of everyone is a spark of the Divine. This spark is what makes you a Witch. Choosing to nourish that spark in yourself and others is what makes you a follower of Wicca and a true Witch.

TO Gina Smith and Everyone Else:

I want to say that you are right. Wicca is about real life. However, I disagree with the other points in your statement. Wicca is about finding the strength to follow the ethical road in "real life." I have found in my personal experience that real life can be about love and respect if you dare to make it so.

Many people think Wicca is about the pursuit of psychic powers, spells, and rituals. Those things are just tools for growth and intergrating important life lessons. Wicca is about growth, personal evolution, and reuniting with the Divine Source. Wicca is not just for a few people, who feel they are special. I know the Wiccan path is open for everyone if they choose to bring into their lives. If they do not choose Wicca, they can choose almost any other path and still connect to the Divine Source because they all lead to the Divine Source.

Many people feel that only special people can become a Wiccan. Well, they are right. It is a hard choice to always follow the ethical road. Mystical Powers do not make a Wiccan. Anyone can have Mystical Powers. To be Wiccan takes strength of mind, heart, body, and soul. It takes the desire to unite with the Divine Source through Nature. It takes practice and ethics.

Anyone claiming or showing Mystical Powers are not always Wiccans. You can only be Wiccan by practice.

Adam

Remember:
Inside of everyone and everything is a spark of the Divine. It is your choice to nourish that spark in yourself and others. A true Wiccan nourishs those sparks.

Well, I messed up this posting. I guess I posted similar messages when I ment to cancel the first message and send the second message. Sorry.

Adam

Ok, I only scanned most of the postings, but Teachers are not always what they are cracked up to be. You can trust the best of them, and find out they are using you for your natural talents. As far as knowing yourself completely before deciding to learn, I have one question for you. Do we ever truely know who we are? I mean come on we are constantly changing and evolving into higher thinking beings. We change with each and every new experience. So, to wait till you truely know who you are to learn means you must wait until you are moving on from this level of life to the next. Then how can you learn. I have to say learning is a continuous evolving process. I for one believe I will continue to evolve in my belief system till I pass on to the next level.

Ok here is a question that nobody will give an answer to. Here is the scenerio. A pair of identical twins, whom were close in spirit and in life, practiced Wicca. One of the twins die, the instant the twin dies, the other twin feels the loss immediately. Then all of a sudden no longer feels the loss, because her twins spirit is constantly with her, thus causing 2 spirits to become one. Why should there be fear of 2 becoming one? I have ran across this in my studing, and find everyone with more experience than I, frightened of that scenerio. Why, It does not frighten me, it makes me want to learn more about them and why it should frighten me. Can any of you assist in answering that question?

To Blindly Searching:

Part One:

A student of most faiths must understand why they are searching. You are correct that we are changing constantly; however, we follow patterns of behavior, have deep wounds that need healing, and other personal issues. These issues need to be evaluated and work on before most magicks are used. Healing and Self-Awareness magicks need to happen first. Yes, most of us will never completely heal. It is by healing and self-awareness that we grow and evolve into the person we are becoming.

Part Two:

The story about the twins: I want to say that I was not there or have never heard of this story except what you wrote. Based on this story, I would tell the people involved to have Tracking done. (Tracking is a form of Journey Work / Shamanic Divination surrounding a particular issue).

If I had to manage a guess, I would think that some part of the dead twin is in the living twin. This is can be a problem. Two did not become One. One is feeding off of the other. Most likely this situation is not healthy for both spirits.

While it is sometimes necsessary for part of a spirit to leave one person and join with another to promote healing, it is not often the case. Without more information and personal assessment of the situation, I cannot offer more advice about it. Tracking in this situation is necessary. The Dead should pass on to where they need to be. The Dead go through education and healing, too.

As to why you might find this attractive, there are a host of different reasons. I would suggest doing some journey work with your personal guides and deities about this scenerio. If you do not want to do journey work, I would suggest divination or writing about the issue as if it happened to you. I would make three stories. The first story has only good things happening. The second has only bad things happening. The final story is a combination of both stories. I feel that it could hold some meaning for you. I suggest doing some work on this scenerio. It has a deep meaning.

I want to say that we should not fear this scenerio nor should we welcome this scenerio. Each situation is different and needs proper study before making a diagnosis.

I suggest to you that you research Shamanism and Journey Work. Robert Moss, Micheal Harner, Sandra Ignmen, and other writes have books that contain this type of scenerio.

I hope this helps.

Thanks Adam That will help.:)

Hello, good advice from Adam there. I find a running theme through this, one of need and reaching. If you feel you have prepared yourself for another step higher in responsibility and have the desire to learn the Path finding someone to give you a hint is not all that hard. The life we live is ours. Look around, listen to the world, understand that it is yours. We all have a option do do something fantastic NOW in this life. Time is drawing.
"Do what thou wilt"
Goodbye and Blessed Be

To Blindly Searching:

You are welcome. I hope that you got some helpful information. If you need any other information, I have been checking this list somewhat regularly. I would be willing to extend some help.

To Pete and other People:

It is good to hear some wisdom on this message board. I have read several of these messages and they discourage me.

I have been checking other websites and rereading beginner books. I am ashamed of what I have found. I have found that the religion that I have chosen becoming fluff or corrupted.

I have found a large number of "spellbooks" have hit the bookstands. No one is covering the basics or properly explaining ethics. No one is covering how magick and ritual is a part of spiritual evolution. They have only covered "power" through magick. It frightens me about the future of Wicca.

As a community we need to start educating and getting popular culture to realize how they have been hurting our religion. I hope that people start to realize that Wicca is about spiritual empowerment and evolution. We need to empower others and ourselves instead of worrying about psychic power development. We need to bring Spirit back into our religion.


Adam

Realize that you are connected to everything and that your actions affect others. Now is not the time for self-involvement and apathy.

who said all witches are bad? I have been told that there are good witches and bad witches. If you put a spell on anyone then you open the doors for a spell to be put on you. Karmic debt can start accumulating. Why dig a hole? But if you send out good (even being a witch) then you will get more good in return. The dark side was created for a reason. Think about that reason and do something nice for someone.

These are only my truths not someone else's truth. I write these messages to help people find their own truths. We are all on a path to find our truth.

I feel that, generally, Magick is neutral. It is up to us on how and why we use it. The use of magick and ritual, connection to nature, self-identity, and generally following a European theme to your practice decide if you are a witch. There are many, many other definitions to the title of witch but this one is my general one.

Being a witch does not usually decide how you are going to live your life. For a long time I disagreed with this statement. Now, I have changed my mind about it because I have met many people who call themselves Witches that do not follow any sort of ethical code in their lives.
Now, I call myself a Priest and a Witch. I usually sum this phrase up with Wiccan.

This brings me to the phrase "good/bad witch." Like most people witches are neither good nor bad. They are just people. Some are cruel and mean. Some are misguided and confused. Some are nice and helpful. Some are wonderful people who are living their lives for the betterment of others and themselves.

Now, Wiccans are people who live by the Rede and are priest/esses. They can be witches or not. It is their personal choice. The Rede is a demanding and powerful ethical path to walk. It guides people for the betterment of the individual and those who they touch.

Another interesting point you brought up is Karmic Debt. I do not see karma as a score board in heaven. I think that it is a system of lessons you need to learn to help evolution. Karma is an educator. It is meant to help you become aware that you are not evolving in certain areas. If you are not paying attention, Karma tends to shout at you until you pay attention. Once you have learned the lesson and do not repeat the issue, you move on. Often people have many major issues being taught at one moment.

When people perform spells to harm other people it does open them up for negative energies to surround them. It is like dealing with the Mob. Once you invite them into your life, it is hard to get rid of them. Doing negative magick will drain you. It will create negative tides of energy that are being sent out in the universe. Eventually, it will come back to its source. It might take years or be changed but it will come back.

If you perform "good" magick, it will come back to you but not always in what you think as positive. I feel that the only good magick is Theurgy, which is magick that connects you to the Divine. If you are using this form of magick, it will help move you into alignment with your Higher Self. Moving into alignment can mess you life up for a while. You will get rid energies and behaviors that you do not need anymore. Getting rid of these things can be upsetting. However, Theurgy is the highest form of magick as long as it is done with positive goals in mind. Theurgy is life changing and will help bring you personal power and growth. I feel that it is a part of the true work.


Well, I hope that this helps someone. It just flowed out when I was writing.

Blessed Be,

Adam

Well, I hope people are going to write something. I checked this forum today and I have found only my last message. I have decided to post a question that I hope people answer.

Because many people learn from books these days, I would like to know which books are being read and that are good. It has been a while since I read a W101 book. I would like to hear other people's opinions of good books. What books have guided you the best on your path?

I really want to become a witch and i have been researching but on website it says you have to be part if a coven is that true and im 12 can i be a witch

Everyone has a different definition of what being a witch is. I can only give you what I believe. Additionally, I am going to assume that your parents know that you have posted and support you.

In my opinion, you do not have to be a part of a coven. A real coven is amazing but it is not for everyone or every situation. You can train yourself but it is extremely hard work. Wicca is more than casting spells and doing rituals. It is about self-evolution. It is about becoming a more authentic person.

If you are interested in practicing Wicca, please become a critical thinker first. Many resources are available to those on the Wiccan Path but many of them are fluff and repeat the same information. If you desire to learn about and practice Wicca, I would recommend books by Scott Cunningham, Doreen Valiente, Stewart Farrar, and Robert Buckland. These authors are to be trusted. Silver RavenWolf's first two books, Silver Broomstick and Magick Cauldron, are good resources as well.

Being 12 is most likely going to be a problem with a coven that contains adults. Most adults will not train people who are under 18 years old because of our legal system. You can still learn and practice on your own.

When I first started practicing Wicca, I was around 14. My parents were not very open to the idea. Maybe I did it at first because I wanted to rebel. However, Wicca taught me wisdom and personal ethics. It taught me to work in partnership with those around me. It helped me evolve. Now, I practice because it is a part of me.

If you are doing this to rebel and be different, I hope that you eventually find your true path. There are easier ways to be different. If you are interested in Wicca to evolve and work in partnership with Spirit, then prepare yourself for hard work.

I would suggest that you explore many different spiritual paths before committing yourself to Wicca. I would research the major world religions and a couple of small religions. If you still decide that Wicca is for you, you will have gained knowledge and perspective about other people's belief systems, which causes no harm.

If you have not already done so, I would also suggest informing your parents about your interest in religion and spirituality. I would ask them how they feel about religion and spirituality. Talk openly about different topics. You do not have to agree with them; however, you should respect them by letting them know that you are exploring different spiritualities.

I hope this helps you on your path. Being a witch takes self-awareness. Please explore why you want to be a witch. If it is for the wrong reasons, stop and work on healing yourself. If it is for the right reasons, I wish you well on your path.

Adam

Thank-you
I will

I am wondering if anyone has any good websites i can go on to get some rituals and chants.
Any1 got any
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Hi
Satanim fasinates me can anyone tell me where i can go to get advice and help on becoming one pls.I had been a Christian for a lot of years,i came out of it because i didnt believe the practices and was just going through the motions to keep people happy.At one point i was used in exorcism,and i do get visions of spirits etc although not anymore since leaving the christian church.

Katty:

ecauldron.com has some helpful resources. I find the people who run it to be snooty. I suggest reading books over websites and practicing the rituals in the books. I find that many websites post anything that comes to them. The rituals are not tried out before hand. Books carry a greater chance of being tested out before hand. A tested ritual can save you time, energy, and money. However, this should not stop you from creating your own rituals or adapting other people's rituals to fit your personal beliefs.

To Clintward:

Satanism is not my thing. I really do not know much about it. I would also suggest ecauldron.com because I think that they had a section about Satanism.

I think that it is interesting that you are leaving the Christian Church for Satanism. I feel that Satanism is a branch of Christianity; however, I do not really know for sure as I have never really studied Satanism. This feeling is just my opinion.

I would advise you to be careful about Satanism or any other spiritual decision after coming out of a very religiously strict background. I would explore why you want to make the decision to practice Satanism. I would also explore Satanism before declaring yourself a Satanist. I would find out if you really believe in Satanism or not.

I also want to state that Wicca is not Satanism. Witchcraft is not Satanism. I guess witches can also be Satanists depending on which definition one uses. However, many Wiccans and Witches would be offended if you openly considered Satanism and Wicca/Witchcraft the same thing.

After a strict religious background, I would suggest that you explore and find out which religious or spiritual philosophy strikes a chord in your being. Then practice that religion/spirituality with open and critical eyes. If something feels wrong to you, then explore why it is wrong. If something feels right to you, then explore why it is right. Knowing yourself and your beliefs is an important aspect to most religious paths.

These are just my suggestions.

Adam

A Blessed Samhain to everyone!!!

Adam,

I commend you. You are very generous in your responses. You also seem to know what you are saying. Very few people do.

I find it interesting that I discovered this site by searching for "How to be a better Witch"... I chose the path of the Ancient Ones 13 years ago. The more I learn, the more I discover there is to learn...

I just celebrated Samhain, Solitary... in my back yard... I set a plate at dinner for those who have passed, but especially for my father who passed last year at the age of 76.

What is interesting is that in my Samhain ritual, not only did I remember my father, I brought my daughter, (who is nine weeks old today) into the Circle for her first time. It wasn't necessarily a "Wiccaning", because it was only her and myself, but I did introduce her to the Four Quarters and the Lady & Lord...

I asked all of them to simply protect her, regarless of what Path she chooses later in her life... It was one of the most amazing Rituals in my life! First, I cast the Circle, then welcomed my father, and then came to the realization that all of those things that we didn't say to each other in life are understood now...

Then I cut a hole in the Circle and sealed it to come inside to get my daughter... (It's getting cold here already). I wrapped her up in a couple of blankets and as I was carrying her down the hall, she "coo'ed" and smiled at me!

I'm not sure if you have children of your own or not,but this was an incredible experience!!! As I brought her to the Circle, the "cooing" and smiling increased! She just watched me, and as I presented her to the Lady and the Lord, she smiled! I took her to each Quarter and introduced her, She looked at me in the torchlight and smiled at each Quarter.

It was as if she knew what was happening! I just had to share this with someone who could relate, or could identify. I appreciate you listening.

Getting back to the reason I found this posting area... I've been having trouble lately with not being a "very good witch"... Work has been hell lately... I'm "in demand" where I work...

It just seems that many times, especially the last few months, I haven't been able to find the time or energy to focus on ritual... I do notice the phases of the Moon, but it makes me feel bad when my five year old notices that the Moon is getting full before I do...

I searched for "How to be a better Witch" because I've missed many Moon celebrations... I simply want people to see the Lady and Lord's light within me and in the things I do... I wanted to see if anyone else had difficulty finding the time for Ritual in this fast paced life...

"If that which Thou seekest, Thou findest not within Thee, then Thou wilt never find it without Thee..."

"An it harm none, do what thou wilt"

Blessed Be!

White Witch

To White Witch:

I really understand about not having the time for Ritual. I am having a hard time finding a clean space at the moment to do ritual because I am refinishing my house. I have time to practice but little space at the moment. My altar has to be moved constantly. My ritual tools are packed away in a trunk. I just keep reminding myself that Wicca/Witchcraft is more than tools and rituals. It is service to Spirit. If you are actively in service, you are being a good Wiccan/Witch.

To help keep my connection to Spirit, I just try to take five minutes to connect. If I can do just five minutes, I am better for it. Five minutes is sometimes hard to get. If I can't get five minutes, I take a moment to quiet my mind. Then I light a candle to represent my inner desire to connect to Spirit. I ask Spirit to support me in tasks.

Remember, that you are a better Witch for wanting to practice ethically and more often. Do not beat yourself up for not always being a Super Witch. Just try instead to prectice when you have the time and energy.

Another idea has come to me as I am writing. Why not try to do short weekly practices that do not take much time or energy instead of monthly complex rituals? You do not have to always cast circle for ritual. Circles are best for working rituals; but, for honorings you do not have to cast circle. Ask Spirit to create Sacred Space instead of creating a circle. Then proceed with the rest of the ritual.

As for your Samhain ritual, you are a servant of Spirit. I commend you. It sounds very powerful and healing, which is what Wicca is about.

I want to say that I considered your ritual a Wiccaning because all of the important people were there, you, your daughter, and Spirit. It does not take a group to have a Wiccaning. I feel that a Wiccaning is exactly what you did: introduce your new daughter and ask for aid and protection.

I commend you for your work. I hope that I was able to help you out. If you think that I can help you out, let me know. I hope that you keep posting because the more people who know what they are talking about the better.

Blessed Be,

Adam

I agree with you Adam. Finding time just one a month is often difficult in our very busy society. Once a week is fine - comletely fine so dont beat yourself up about time.

Your own capabilities are essential to any magic working and it is greatly increased by the position of the Moon. If you can pbserve the full Moon it is preferable, but if not, and just training, make a little space. One of my favourite exercises (and also a ritual if you trance for a lengthy period of time) is to set up an altar with elemental souvenirs. Then light a Rose candle for relaxation and begin to meditate. Always thank the God and Goddes but just sit before the pink candle until it is over half burnt. At this point, ask the God and Goddess to honour you with the strength to make time for your own spiritual development. If they have heard you, and that you phrase it correctly, you will find that over the next couple of weeks; mediatation and ritual will come most easily for you. Even if you are very busy, you will be able to honour your own spiritual development.

You must remeber that if you are pursuing this lifestyle, proving your beliefs, you will have to forfeit your social life somewhat and let some other responsibilities go because the Wicca rede will take precedence.

I have sat with this time management issue for a while now. Here is what Spirit is telling me to do:

I try to make my everyday life a part of my beliefs. In the past, I lead a double life. I would have my "normal" life and my "Wiccan" life. When I had this separation, I had the most trouble managing time and energy. I often found myself missing moons and forgetting about my healing and magickal skills. At other times in my life, I would completely focus every ounce of my being on Spiritual development. I would forget to pay bills. I would cause too many shifts in my energy field to safely integrate. These extremes did not really help me. I would burn out and become frustrated. These feelings would cause me to question my devotion and calling.

Now, my ideas about making time for Deity and Wicca are about integrating magick and mundane. When I am cooking, I try to use my magickal skills to help make the dinner more healing. When I am cleaning my house, I energetically clean at the same time. When I integrate my lives, the time issue does fade away. Sometimes, I slip back into my division. When I catch myself, I stop and try to start integrating again.

I hope that this helps someone. I know that it has helped me to write about it.

Adam

i think u all are wirdos think about it your all talk no effence im like young and i aint scared you are all stupid get a life and dont revolve your life around stupid ghost things ok well bi and good rittons to all ( freaks)

Because many Wiccans are afraid to connect themselves in anyway to the idea of Satanism, we have lost the idea of giving offerings to Spirit. Since tomorrow is Thanksgiving, I want encourage people and myself to give an offering to Spirit in honor of how it supports us.

Now, I am not stating that people should give offerings of animals. What I mean is a symbol of something that connects you to Spirit. I give milk and honey to Spirit to nourish my connection. Sometimes, I draw symbols with birdseed outside as an offering to Spirit. Fresh Flowers are also nice. I have used expensive perfumes and candies as well. The offering should mean something to you. It should also be a sacrifice. You need to give up something to make it more meaningful. You do not have to make it an expensive gift; however, it should take time and energy to make.

Spirit does so much for us. It supports us when no one else will or can. It would be rude not to gift a friend for being kind. It is the same with Spirit. Offerings help us build and deepen a relationship with Spirit. These are just my thoughts.

Happy Thanksgiving,

Adam

hi i am new to it all i am looking for books stores in derry in ireland but know one has any books on witchcraft if you have any inforamtion for i am a Beginner my email address is joejoe415@hotmail.com

To Joe:

I like to order books online and have them shipped to me. I find that it is easier to do sometimes when I am trying to find a book that is out of print or rare. However, shopping online does take away some of the specialness in finding a book for me.

Adam

After 9 years of dealing with basic Hell on earth, during this time dealing with the old Hit Parader magazine, most of the people who work there, Erin Rose, The Everly side of her family tree, and getting to meet several of the original Guns-N-Roses members, the main one being Steven Adler(who IS NOT DEAD!), who is married to my sister Marcie Bray Hawkins McNatt, and Ricky Przybyszewski(who is not dead!) I can tell you that there is a force greater than anything you will ever know in heaven and that is GOD and his son Jesus! I have had a cochlea implant with a modified microphone and a microcircuit installed in my head against my will when I was 23! Who signed these papers I dont know! April Przybyszewski worked at Methodist Central in Memphis, Tn. where this was done. The reason it was done was to had me a mental condition(the microphone will both send and receive sound),so that Allison Edwards, a rape victim of my fathers in Thomasville, Ga. could have children, and the eggs could be forceably removed from me against my will! The implant was installed a couple of years before the eggs were taken and it almost did drive me crazy until I realized I had to find some strenght for the 5 children these eggs have produced so far. It has taken me almost 9 years to track this cochlea implant and the reason why it was installed. Also 2 members of my family have been murdered due to this being done to me. Clay cook of memphis died of similar circumstances to a friend of W. Axl Rose's, and my grandfather Roy Chandler of Crawford, Ga. has also had the back of his head blown off in a field. I WILL SAY THIS-W. AXL ROSE IS COMPLETELY INNOCENT OF ANY CRIMES AND IS BEING FRAMED FOR THESE TO MURDERS BY MY PAST BOYFRIENDS MICHEAL PRATTER AND DEL DELAHANEY! He is being framed due to the fact that Erin Rose is the daughter of Don Everly- Don Everly is now married to my ex-stepmother Patsy Goodwin Edwards Hawkins Everly and i was molested by Ben edwards at 11 and daddy raped Allison in response. In Thomasville, Ga. you will find evidence that she could not have kids but now has 3 that look just like me. Marshall Everly's daughter Hallie Jade also looks just like me. He is dating or married to Kim Dobson or Datson, and in Memphis, Tn. she was in a wheelchair almost all of highschool. It must have taken a fortune to get her out of it, but as a school chum and the rumors- she couldn't have children either. he is dealing with Hit Parader magazine magazine, some of the original GNR, and the Everly family which now includes my ex-stwepfamily of the Hunt, Edwards clan. All of this was done to me so that they could steal my children and then have me blame W. Axl for it. They are guilty of 2 count of murder previously mentioned, attempted murders in the dozens( 2 suicide attempts, being drunk and under general anethesis at the same time, 2 summers of dealing with west nile while homeless,2 spider bites that made me very sick,etc.) They also have forged my name on all of these papers and do not have my permission for any of this. Watch out for the cops and sherrifs down here in athens, Ga.,especially one Vincent Jolly that also has a grandchild who looks just like me. Allison Edwards has 3, Marshall Everly has 1, and the Jolly's have 1 of my children so far. ANYONE THAT CAN GET THIS INFORMATION TO THE KAT KLUB IN LOS ANGELES,CA. PLEASE DO SO. TELL AXL HIS EX-WIFE WANTS REVENGE! you may be saving my life if you go ahead and do this and no THIS IS NOT A JOKE! Marshall, the Everly's, and Allison,s family are paying off everyone except God, but he is the only reason I am stil alive! Contact W. Axl Rose anyway you can and while you are doing this tell him to watch the obituaries for the name Lisa L. Hawkins in Athens, Ga. Also tell him regardless of whether or not I win this battle with Marshall, Johnny;s little brother, he (W.Axl) has always had my undying trust and respect and that i know he is not behind this. Erin Rose is under the name Marsha Lafavor(with a red rose on her right upper arm), Andy Secher is under the name Andy Eastman, Ricky przybyszewski is under Charles Jones and Andy Loftis, Mary Childress(already on AMW once-Danny Owens) is under the name Donna Ross. All of this information is in the Athens Real Estate books in Athens, Ga., Atlanta, Ga. and surrounding areas. A Tony something-or -other in the Atlanta, DA office is probably my sister Marcie's first husband Tony McNatt. Also watch out for Glenn Campbell in politics down here. GOD SPEED TO THIS MESSAGE FINDING W.AXL ROSE HEALTHY AND HAPPY! I will ALWAYS LOVE HIM! please send this to Rolling Stone magazine or the Kat Klub where he is the owner. Since you beleive in good karma you will have made two of probably the best friends you will ever have! Thank You.

oh weird or what

im 98 i have been practicing the black arts since i was 10 i want someone to pass on my knowlage to i will die as predicted on the next full moon please help me i have very little time left yours with my greatest sympathy
sereina

I just want to remind people that the Full Moon is tonight. Here is a small ceremony to honor it:


Take a moment to focus. Remember that you are going to be Honoring the Sacred inside of you and outside of you.

Ask that Sacred Space be created around you. Knock 3 times to signify that something special and sacred is about to happen.

Light a candle. Say to yourself, "I honor the Spark of Magick within myself. I honor the Spark of Magick within the world."

Take a moment to quiet your mind. Listen to your intuition, your inner voice.

Say to the Moon, "Great Mother, Great Father, I honor you tonight. I ask that your light help guide me to the path of your Divine Will."

Sit quietly for awhile or sing a song about the moon. Think about how you could honor the Goddess and the God in your life.

Give an offering to the moon. The offering should be from your heart. Make up your own words here.

Thank the God and the Goddess. Thank the Magick within you. Thank the Magick in the world. Thank the spirits, who helped you create Sacred Space.

Knock 3 times to symbolize that the ceremony is over.


This ceremony is simple and real magick. It is more important than any "black arts" that people might tell you they possess. Doing rituals like this might not have the immediate big bang that some rituals offer; however, over time and practice, little rituals like this one grow in power, grow in connection. You will be changed. You will become more authentic.

nice site you have here, some of the postings are very funny, so thanks for the smile : )
i am a 3rd degree wiccan priest who took his year and a day 22 years ago,anyone wanting true help, drop me a line mp

This stuff isn't to be fooled around with it has dark paths in which you must take to be a true wicca.
I WARN YOU NOW!

Yes, Wicca is not a joke. It is a spiritual path. Wicca and Magick are hard work. It takes devotion to practice Wicca and be effective magickally.

Yes, Wicca, as I practice it, is not all light and happy. It is about growth, which does mean some hard experiences. These "dark" paths are not negative. It means paths that are not always happy and joyous. Wicca is about experience and stewardship. Not everything in Human Experience is fun and games. However, I believe that Spirit does not give us experiences that we do not have the gifts to handle.

You should respect them, not fear them. This "I WARN YOU NOW!" stuff is just a fear tactic to make someone feel special. It should not stop you from listening deep to Spirit and exploring Wicca. If you approach Wicca and Magick from a Respectful, not Fearful, stance, Spirit will help you evolve.

Adam

I'll never understand why young people are so "drawn" to witchcraft - and why that gut reaction, or inner desire, seems to indicate that such a feeling means that they *ought* to practice witchcraft. Is it because it seems deep, sensual, experiential? Is there an attraction to the idea of some of that depth and mystery rubbing off on you as a person - sort of like receiving a little bit of a Stevie Nicks persona?

Feelings aren't always trustworthy indicators. You might feel like kissing someone, but maybe that person isn't someone you should kiss. You might feel angry with someone, when in truth, your real inner state is more indicative of being hurt or saddened by something they said to you, and so if you go by your most easily accessible responses, you'd not even understand your real motivations. With witchcraft, it's not acceptable to just go with your feeling and your desire - because witchcraft isn't a game. People are jumping into it just about as easily as people jump into marriages ("Oh well, if I don't like it later, I can try something different"). Where's the **real thought**?

If you're a teenager, you probably hate reading this. You probably feel that you've thought it over quite a lot, especially if it's a subject that is on your mind often. Maybe you have Wiccan or witch friends. Maybe you love going to witchy websites or watching 'Charmed.' Maybe you have unresolved issues concerning your current mainstream religion, and so you assume that religion isn't for you.

Whatever your situation is, do you logically believe that something as serious as witchcraft is something you can just take up, sort of the way someone might take up a new hobby or learn to play an instrument? Or do you think that if you read a few pagan books and cruise Witchvox you'll have enough information to make a real choice about the magickal life - a decision that is *truly about a LIFE* that you would live, which means it's a life you'd live even as an elderly person years from now? Are you sure that you're ready to accept all the responsibility that comes with such a decision?

If you're leaving a mainstream faith such as Christianity or Judaism, are you *sure* that your distaste for the religion is truly about **the beliefs themselves and the God they represent** -- rather than anger or distaste for the human beings you know who are part of that religion? Are you sure that when you say you don't believe the same things they do, that in fact you're really educated about what those beliefs *are*? (An example: I know a woman who gave up her religion for a pagan religion because she didn't think it was right to be under the Pope's jurisdiction spiritually - and she didn't like the Catholic Church's attitudes toward women's rights. She was shocked when I told her that *only Catholics* are under the Pope, and that Protestant churches have nothing to do with any of that. When I told her that, she was a little bit shocked to say the least, but she had already been practicing as a neopagan for about a year and a half, and felt like she was happy with the way things were... yet interestingly, she went out and bought a Bible. I don't know whether she remained a neopagan or whether she ended up doing something completely different because I ended up moving to another area and we lost touch... but I won't soon forget the look on her face when she realized that she thought "all Christians have to do whatever the Pope says" and she was completely off base).

I've heard other things, too, about why "regular" religions are "pointless" - and often, people give me amazingly confused information about what is supposedly in the Bible... or, even worse, they tell me about horrible things *Christians* (supposed Christians!) did to them in their childhoods, which turned them away from churches forever. I imagine that the people who were abused by clergy go through this quite a bit. What concerns me is that people, for some reason, find it very easy to spend extensive time reading and researching about intriguing religions such as the pagan paths, but when it comes to "boring Christianity" and "boring Judaism," they're willing to just listen to very poorly thought-out theology from 'Christians' who don't even know basic theology - rather than actually digging deeply to learn the truth for themselves. The energy people put into things that are new and different (or in this case, old and intriguing) tends to be quite a bit more focused than the energy put in to understanding the "dull" things.

Everyone has their choices in life, and I can certainly understand why someone would want to seek out what makes them feel fulfilled and connected to God - I just hope that if you're young and just beginning your spiritual journey, you'll realize that part of the spiritual life is spiritual growth - and being able to develop spiritual maturity over time. But before that can happen, you have to learn how to tell the difference between your immediate desires and your deepest knowing. Don't be in a rush to make huge changes; just study and pray, being sure to be sensitive to the leading you receive in prayer.

I have sat with this last message for sometime now. I have tried to listen to spirit about what to write. This message struck several triggers inside of me. I was raised in a very strict Christian family. I was a teenager when I started practicing. I, also, did it for many bad reasons. However, Wicca was the right choice for me. Wicca helped to shape me into a mostly self aware person, who is actively seeking connection with Spirit.

Well, here we go...

I agree with some of your ideas; however, I do not like your wording. I receive an angry energy off of the words. At first, I thought that you were a Christian, who was attacking Wicca and its practitioners. I had to read the message closely a second time to grasp that you are a practitioner.

I felt that you were complaining about new practitioners. I can see why you could complain about them. Some new practitioners speak more than they understand. However, many new practitioners do not. Instead of complaining about them, try to understand them and help them on their path towards whatever fulfills them (even if it is not Wicca).

It also seemed that you were complaining about people, who are just exploring Wicca. I disagree with this point of view. People explore and evolve. Your friend, who was Christian turned Pagan, has every right to change their mind about their spirituality. Each person has their own path. They might take something important from each spirituality that they practice for a short time to create something beautiful for them. We cannot judge someone's evolution.

I also found the comments about teenagers misguided. Many of the "faults" that you described about teenagers, I have also seen in 30 year old new practitioners.

I do agree with your advice about waiting, studying, and listening. I think it is wise advice. I also agree with your points about really understanding other religions, especially the religion you were born into.

Well, this is my point of view at this moment.

Adam

I have a question: i have heard wicca and paganism been combined many times but what is the difference between wicca and paganism?

And as i read this forum i noticed many people wanting to become wicca, but i thought that i should give a warning that being a wicca is not about being able to do cool spells or incantations its more about learning about yourself, and balancing yourself so to speak and it takes a lot of patience to do it right.

Also (although i should say that i am not a wicca,
so maybe im wrong) wicca is more a way of living, if you really consider becoming a wicca, you should know that its not as easy as it looks.

I belive I may kill myself with the "law of return." No spells here... Just as many books as I can get my hands on. Besides YOU NEVER MESS WITH SOMETHING YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. I don't understand wicca.In time I think I may. But I am learning.. and reading... and reading some more.

To Poison and Everyone Else:

I am glad that you are not going to mess with something that you do not understand; however, to fully understand magick and ritual, it takes practice. Some of the key aspects of Wicca must be experienced by ritual.

One does not need to be afraid of the Law of Return unless one is performing harmful, manipulative magicks. Karma and the Law of Return are teaching tools, not punishing tools. If I live in an ethical way and practice magick in an ethical way, I do not have to be afraid of being killed or harm from my magick.

When I say living in an ethical way, I mean following the Rede. I am in charge of me, not other people. I make decisions for myself, not others. I do not take on others problems or beliefs. I decide how to create my world. No one has the power to create for me.

If a situation/person bothers me, I ask for guidance from Spirit. I ask myself how and why I created this experience. I figure out how to recreate my negative beliefs. My recreated positive beliefs change my sitaution without manipulating someone else.

Many people are afraid of casting spells. I have read and heard people say things like, "Spells twist your life. They can cause more problems. Becareful what you wish for." When you use magick to help shift yourself into alignment with Spirit, you can cause disruption in your life. You must get rid of the no longer healthy beliefs to open yourself up to Spirit in a greater way.

For example, Person A cannot pay their bills on time because of money issues. Person A performs a spell to draw money into their life. Well, the beliefs that are keeping money from their life are shed off. These beliefs sometimes are cornerstones in our lives. Without these beliefs, we have to redefine ourselves and create a new belief system. Person A suddenly has their life tossed around and shook up. Then the beliefs that inhibited money are gone and money comes. The spell worked. Yes, the problems might have gotten worse for a little while but you are in a better place for working the magicks to help move yourself into alignment with Spirit. You are in greater alignment with Spirit, which is always positive.

Now, the example of above is about working magick from an Ethical Stance, not manipulative and harmful magicks. Negative magicks do create very negative sitautions and ripple outward into the world causing more problems for people around you.

My advice to you is read Cunningham's Wicca: for the Solitary Practitioner. It takes a slow pace. It gives many basic techniques and gives great ethics. I would suggest performing the spells and rituals in that book to help give you practice and a knowledge base to explore other areas of magick and Wicca.

I hope this helps,

Adam

Thanks Adam, I am sure I will stumble across that book at the local Barns and Nobles and snag it up.

Still I belive my heart is jaded in some way and only bad will come from it. It is best to say I may stay away and do what I do best... read. As I stated that I do not understand wicca or magick. I like to think of myself and somewhat of a smart person and if I don't understand what I am doing... well... maybe I shouldent do it.

Wicca is a path of healing. Self-Healing is never dark and never harms you. It can be a little stressful at times, especially, when you are holding onto negative patterns and beliefs. Yet afterward, the release and healing makes it worth the pain. I know from personal experience.

One of my teachers told me once when I was afraid, "Where there is true fear, there is Power." I have found this to be very true. If you are afraid of your "jaded" heart, I would suggest really working with your heart energy.

A simple way to do it:

Light a white candle
Ask Spirit to guide you to healing
Focus on your heart area. Feel it. Imagine white light filling it and cleaning it out. (5 to 10 minutes to start.)
Say, "I love myself. My heart is strong. My heart is healed." (Repeat several times)
Thank Spirit.
Blow out Candle.

Another book, that I would suggest to you, is Energy Medicine by Donna Eden. It is a wonderful book full of healing techniques that work with energy but not "magick" in the traditional sense. It is also not based in Wicca. I feel that maybe that should be the first step for you.

I hope that this helps. If you want anymore information, please write.

Adam

I was wondering if anyone knew a really good book on past lives. I am kinda into that right now. It would be a big help. Thanks.

secret spells i no a lot of tham you dont want to get me mad or i will do something verv evil to you!!!!!!!!!!

To Poison:

I really do not know much about past lives. Generally, I work with different energies. I would suggest looking into some Shamanic books or workshops. Robert Moss has a couple of good books about working with death and dying that could easily be used to tie in your past lives.

For something working directly with past lives, I think that in the general metaphysical section of a major bookstore would have something to help you. If you find a really good book, please let me know. Thanks

Adam

To Poison:

Sylvia Browne has a great chapter on past lives in her book, The Other Side And Back. It explains how past lives can effect issues in our current lives. There is also a guide meditation in the chapter to journey to your past lives. I hope this helps.

Carrie

Thanks. I do own a Sylvia Browne book. But sadly it is lost under mass piles of clothes.

I like what she has to say. Even if sometimes I think she is rude. But when she is on TV all things come to a halt and I watch her.

But I will look around for a good book and post it on here.

Thanks again.

there is no scientific prove of paranormal.our normal life is paranormal.can anybody prove the existence of ghosts ?i challenge anybody.its only there in our immagination.arent they?

I can't figure out what the last message means. Does the author want us to prove the "paranormal" so they can be happy or not?

Well, I do not believe in the paranormal or supernatural. I feel that everything that I practice helps me to be more normal. Not believing in magick, Spirit, or spirits is not a state of "normalacy" for me. I say "for me" because I do not know what is normal for someone else. Someone else might need to believe that none of this exists for some currently unknown reason.

My musings for the morning.

Adam

Hmm...
Being too lazy to read everything, I will base my post on the few posts I have skimmed.

Being a Witch isn't all about giving readings, healing, destroying, changing reality and casting spells you know. Its a path, a way of thinking , a way to live your life and a way at looking at life.

I agree with PROFFESSOR about the whole wanting-to-be-sinister thing -- make sure its not just a phase you're going through.

I'm glad there's so many more out there interested in treading the Goddess Path -- though I do have to say, Gothchick, although I don't want you to think I'm putting you down, maybe you should pull yourself away from tarots and using tools for a while... Using unorthodox methods is okay, and sometimes if you use a technique more personal to yourself the magick is more powerful and accuracy is increased.

Now, personally, I think there's no 'way to be a witch'... All you need to do is respect yourself, respect others and respect your environment and believe in magick. I don't use divinatory tools, ceremonial equipment or other tools -- not an athame, a tarot deck, a pentacle, an altar or a chalice. But still I can come out and call myself a Wiccan. When I practice magick, read auguries or whatever, I find all the tools I need within me.

Some 12-year-old Maiden wisdom for a change...LOL
Feel free to condemn me for my insolence XDDDDDDDDD

I've read most of these posts, and forgive me, but I'm getting mixed messages. All I want to know really if it's possible for me to convert to the Wiccan religion? I heard from quite a few people it has to be in your "bloodline" but the religion interests and almost seems to call to me. Also I think of Wicca as a religion not a practice, is that belief wrong? Because I can't really seem myself as a "Witch" practicing magick...sorry but I'm rather confused, I mean so far from what I've read being a witch involves doing black magick, and I can't see myself harming other people on purpose. Please can someone educated in these matters, help inform me.

I believe that anyone can be a Wiccan or a Witch because the potential is inside all of us; however, Wicca is not for everyone. If you feel drawn to practice Wicca, I would suggest doing some reading from books first. I would tend to ignore the internet and groups for a while. So much of the info is spotty and wrong. If you stick with books, most of the info is correct at least.

I would suggest reading Scott Cunningham's Wicca for the Solitary Practitioner and Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft. Each book has its positives and negatives but balance each other out. I think that they are a good start for most people. After reading those books, I would suggest Silver RavenWolf's first two books, To Ride a Silver Broomstick and To Stir a Magick Cauldron. Both are pretty good but I think that her later books are very hit and miss about ethics. Amber K is another author that I like for beginners.

If people are giving you the bloodline stuff, Bloodline stuff is important for them. It doesn't have to be important for you. I would just ignore them and move on. I am not from a bloodline. I did not discover that I had magick powers at 13 or anything like that. I discovered Wicca. I discovered a path to being a more authentic version of myself. After practicing Wicca for a number of years, I have found that I have gained some of those mystical powers but they are not the focus of my path. It is service to self and community through Wicca.

I hope this helps you. If you have anymore questions, please ask. I do warn you that I can only say what is true for me, not what is true for you.

Thank you, very much, Adam. I've copied down the book names and now I plan to go out and buy a few so I can educate myself better. I appreciate it when someone is nice enough to help me. Thanks again.

((By the way, just something funny I noticed you said "I did not discover that I had magick powers at 13 or anything like that. I discovered Wicca." Well guess what I'm actually 13 years old. ^_^))

If you have any questions, please post. I check this list fairly often. I do not promise an answer but most likely I could point you in the right direction of a particular book or a quality website about most topics dealing with Wicca, Healing, or Magick.

I wish the best of luck in your search. Wicca can be an amazing practice if you want it to be.

Adam

hi im looking for advice ive been into witchcraft for a long time now im 21 and i still no nothink about all this but im wanting to learn... and im needing advice on were to go or what information i need to know thanks for any one giving me any info they can

Well, I would try reading at least a few books about Wicca first. Reading gives a pretty good feel about the ethics and the basic practices of Wicca.

After reading, I would practice what is in the books (provided that the information is ethical). I would practice alone for about a year. This allows one to get into a deeper personal level. I would practice daily devotions, energy work, divination, and journeywork. Personal ritual work is necessary as well.

After *practicing* alone for a year, (if I felt guided by Spirit) I would carefully search out a group. I would start slowly. A good coven does not develop over night nor does it accept members without some form of screening. First, I would find out if my area has "open circles". These are rituals that are open to the public. Open Circles are a great way to meet other Wiccans (and screen them. It is better to work alone than with the wrong group.) Usually, it will be easy to tell which people are connected and which are not by watching their actions not their words. Many people talk big but do not walk the walk. Many people talk small but walk the walk.

If you like someone's style and knowledge, politely ask if they train or knows someone who trains. Usually, they will direct you to someone who does train. Thank them.

Then I would go home and ask Spirit about it. If it does not check out with Spirit, forget about it and continue to practice until you find someone else. If this person checks out with Spirit, politely, ask them about training and figure out an agreement and ground rules.

I hope this helps. If you want clarification, let me know. I tried writing in a general way and not tailored to fit.

Adam

i want to cast a love spell cause he played
me like a board of game.

@Julie I didnt start reading books and learning about wicca until I was 13 too. ha what a coincidence.

im 15 and come from a long line of witch wizards etc,etc. I have asked my mom to teach me, she says she will, but never does. my dad , im afraid to ask. can any one help me. im willing to become an apprentice and learn. i know it will be difficult, and take time to learn, but i want to learn. plz email me @ dogio@mail.com