The Debate: Rods (Real or Hogwash) Discussion Forum: The Debate: Rods (Real or Hogwash)
Supposedly rods are creatures which fly through the air and through the ground. They move so quickly that no one ever saw them until recently. At least that is what the theory is. What's your opinion? Could rods be real or is the whole idea just nuts?
By Admin on Thursday, February 11, 1999 - 10:18 pm:

Its very possible that some form of life exist that is not govern by the rules all normal life forms live by. The only reason we haven't discovered them is that we don't think of them.

By Ranji on Sunday, February 14, 1999 - 10:45 pm:

Regardless of your opinion on the subject, I really see no point in sarcasm. Basically anything can be refuted with witty (or smart ass) remarks. Not to suggest that theres any real comparison, but when Darwin and Wallace proposed evolution, almost everyone in the "scholarly" and "religious" community took biting hits at them. One comic at the time had a gorilla crying, and telling the president of ASPCA how hurt his feelings were that this "little man" was proclaiming his pedigree. Whats my point? That anyone serious in their refutation of some controversial topic should also be serious in their statements. Sarcasm equals ignorance.

By ANDY on Saturday, February 20, 1999 - 07:40 pm:

It's all rather interesting in light of recent footage that has been shown on the U.K television programme 'Riddle of the Skies'. In one episode they covered images taken from space by the shuttle crew and others - some of the images are remarkably similar to those shown here. One particular sequence of film was by an astronaught who refused to accept the 'little green men' theories concerning UFO's and Aleins etc. but he had actually captured unexplainable phenomena which he described in his own words as his 'Space eel'. Indeed; for a good two minutes he had filmed what appears to be a wriggling eel like 'creature' at the very limits of the Earths atmosphere. There are stranger things at the bottom of our deepest seas where conventional life-forms are not able to I wonder. That ded-un's aren't dropping from the skies is a good point but likewise - ded-un's aren't rising to the surface of our oceans are they. Keep an open mind and amused at the folly of those who would like to fool us. Andy from the U.K.

By Anonymous on Saturday, March 27, 1999 - 08:10 am:

is this art?

By Posey Gilbert on Thursday, April 22, 1999 - 03:23 am:

Rods as they are called today are not a new phenomena.
They were photographed and discussed as being living entities in the 1970s.
It is too bad that it took almost twenty years for our technology to get to a point that we could more frequently get pictures and videos of them.
In 1976 they were referred to as "Critters" by the early investigator Trevor James Constable, for those interested in learning more about these entities I suggest you try to find these two books by him entitled,
1)Skycreatures: Living UFOs
2) The Cosmic Pulse Of Life the revolutionary Biological Power behind UFOs
There is also a section about him in the video "Overlords Of The UFOs "
It will also do some good if you can find and read some of the works of Wilhelm Riech.
They will better help you understand some of the things Trevor James Constable will be speaking about.
If you wish to know more about these things and these authors please visit my web site called,
" Pieces Of An Enigma" at
Click on the warning poem and you will be directed to the sites you need to go to.
The article you may want to read can be found in the section called "About The Nonts."
Its title is "Nonts, Critters, and Visitations."
My articles are long and I have many pictures so my pages at times are slow in loading but your patience will be rewarded and your curiosity satisfied.
Now for you skeptics, as far as it goes for proof that these things exist, hmmm now there is a hard one.
You see the only thing can be proven is that nothing exist so how can you prove anything exist when nothing exist?
I will explain, if for example, I were to ask you where are you now you would say I am here reading this article in front of my computer or somewhere else reading a print out of it.
If I ask you to prove it you would say "Easy here I am."
However in the time it takes for you to say "Here I am."
The Earth has revolved and you are about eighty miles away from where you were when you started to say Here I am.
Now, knowing that we are in the arm of a galaxy that is moving so many million miles a second we are never anywhere long enought to be here for in a non static universe nothing ever is any where long enought to exist.
Add to that the fact that everything is in a constant state of aging and decaying nothing ever is as it was a second before.
Even the you that is now reading these lines, is not the same you that started reading this article.
You are a more aged version of "that you", standing it a different point in space and time in a now totally different universe, than "that you" was in when you started to read this article.
So you and nothing about you that you'd call reality never really exist long enought to exist at all for in a non static universe only nothing exist and I mean that literally only NOTHING exist.
The only static reality is there is no static reality.
This is not a play on words or some "Zenolistic" philosophical contemplation but a provable scientific fact, and if I am wrong skeptics show me where I am wrong.
I will not ask that you prove me wrong for the only things skeptics have ever proven to be wrong was themselves.
The truth is not only stranger than fiction, it is far, far more frightening, dare to know!

By Aimesue on Saturday, May 29, 1999 - 10:57 pm:

I saw a "rod" a few years ago!! I looked into the
sky (upstate NY), and saw this rod-shaped thing
going through the air, then it looped. I closed my
eyes for a second and when I opened them it was
gone. I tried to convince myself it was nothing,
but there was no explaination for it!! Then one
day about a year ago(1998) I was watching a UFO
show, and some guy had video footage of the same
type of thing!! I have never had any extra-
terrestrial experiences nor have I ever seen a
UFO. I'm just an average person that saw something
extrodinary!! I am not making all this up!! I know

By Anonymous on Sunday, June 20, 1999 - 03:19 am:

what the purpose of these things anyway ?

By Oayala on Wednesday, July 7, 1999 - 03:53 pm:

This is a very interesting subject. So far the photographic evidence submitted by Mr. Escamilla and other pals is pretty good. Let's see what happens with the expedition that has been set to the Attic of the Swallows' cave.

O. Ayala, Cali, Colombia

By Rhedd Riott on Friday, October 1, 1999 - 03:46 pm:

From the pictures and such it's obvious that something is in the air out there. But to be honest I have a difficult time believing that whatever it was in the photos is a 'live' being.
Everything must die, yet there are no corpses of these particular 'animals'. There is no evidence (as of yet) of a nest or burrow. I'm sure someone would have stumbled upon something like that by now. And, as much as I loathe to think about it, what about excrement? From the size of some of the 'creatures' in these photos I would honestly be afraid to step outside for fear of what might come falling out of the sky at me.
And last but not least in all the pictures I've seen not one of the things has bent. I've lived in the desert and have seen many snakes. I've lived by the ocean and have seen fish. Sorry, but if these are indeed living beings, why are they so stiff?
Please prove me wrong, =)

By Mag on Tuesday, October 12, 1999 - 01:24 am:

Photographs and videos are just as reliable as what the mind perceives to be reality at a magic show. What the mind perceives and what is actually there can be two totally separate entities. The mind is easily fooled when it gives way to fits of fancy.

By Trib on Wednesday, March 15, 2000 - 03:42 pm:

If you really want to know what rods are go to the forum at Jose's site,,,,
click on the graphic then scroll to the bottom to see the forum tag.

the skinny....motion blurred insects and birds

a photographic rule not the exception.

in order to understand it completely you may want to read up on photo terms some lite physics(pun) and videocameras. If not then believe it blindly...knowledge is power.

p.s. don't buy anything over there, just go rent a movie and slow scan the daylight scenes if you really must find a rod(really a blur).

By MikeLPrairie on Saturday, April 15, 2000 - 09:30 pm:

I set up the video and to my surprise on my first outing I captured rods. I was amazed at first and then one of the rods turned on its side and revealed its wings from a plan view perspective. It was a moth all along. The sine wave pattern that you see on some of the Rod stills are the rapidly moving wings.

My challenge to Rod believers is show some stills that show a rod moving behind a large structure such as a house or barn, perhaps 100 feet away. Prove that is not an insect close to the camera.

By NiceNCool1 on Thursday, May 18, 2000 - 01:56 am:

I've noticed that many of you are skeptical about the idea that Rods exist. I'd like to remind you that many many animals that exist and have existed on this planet of ours have gone unnoticed by the population at large. It only took a very small minority of people who believed they existed to bring it to light. That's the way it's always been and will be. Rods are not UFO's, alien, or even paranormal in the least. They are simply a very unique species of animal that has developed beyond what is generally considered to be normal for this day and age. One day you will see I'm right and they won't sound so unbelievable. There are many things in this life we don't understand. This is just one of them.

By Anonymous on Tuesday, July 4, 2000 - 12:02 pm:

This is about the subject of Rods, but not, Worked in a plywood plant,patching defects in hardwood plywood. Large wooden building, Low hung lights, many darkened,shadowed areas around roof beams.
Worked directly opposite a co-worker,within 4-8 feet. At one point some years ago a small dark animal flashed directly between our faces and traveled the length of the patchline,40feet,in a quick flash.Other worker did not see it.Looked like a small bat or moth. Black in color.No flapping of wings.Just zoomed as those childs toys I used to buy that lauched with a rubber band.
Perfect color to blend in with shadows, Was visable because of bright lights used over patchling.Black to blend in with shadows.Seen as much with peripheral vision as with eye.No one believed that I had seen it!
Several years latter at the same work station
was looking down toward the floor,worked on raised wooden platform. Another worker and I saw this same animal type flash from under her work station to under mine,say six feet.She said" I will never clean under there again. How fast do animal have to move to be relitively invisable.As I know it this it true!

By PAtrick Hedges on Saturday, September 9, 2000 - 07:11 pm:

Lets just assume that "rods" are real. For them to be able to fly like people say they do, they would have to be made of a liquid/gas mixture, and that would mean that when they died they would "disolve" Also the inteligence of these creatures would have to be enormous, I mean If you were traveling as fast as they say they do, your reflexes would have to be down to the nanosecond or even faster

By Zo Moss on Friday, July 6, 2001 - 03:51 am:

Hmm... Well, this is, for me, about the second or
third time being reminded of Rods. I don't know if
they exist, but if they do, I'm scared. Unless
wants ta be my fwien

By Zo Moss on Friday, July 6, 2001 - 03:56 am:

Just wondering.... Can Rods fly either
A.> from the sky, up your nose or
B.> from the ground, up your ass?

Saddest thing is... I really wanna know your
opinion on this!!!!

By Zo Moss on Friday, July 6, 2001 - 03:57 am:

Just wondering.... Can Rods fly either
A.> from the sky, up your nose or
B.> from the ground, up your ass?

Saddest thing is... I really wanna know your
opinion on this!!!!

By Anonymous on Thursday, November 8, 2001 - 08:15 pm:

Well borrowing from spirits, they are said to be an electromagnetic phenomenon, they can move objects that are not ferris, (non magnetic) so they have some physical prsence on this plain. Maybe your little rod friends are spirits of other life forms that never crossed over. Why do ghosts all have to be human? Shudders at the thought of being attacked by the ghost of a bunch of pissed off bacteria. I would imagine that there are a lot fewer animal spirits because they have no reason to stay after they pass on. then again it could be a cosmic glitch between polygons. he he he. makes ya wonder.

The matrix has you neo!

By Brian on Friday, December 21, 2001 - 02:14 pm:

i beleive in almost anything paranormal, but it could be very easy that these are just light reflections caught on film.

By Rod on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 09:22 pm:

Check out the Fortean Times site for an interesting series of videos on these anomalies and scientific analysis from a noted scientist. For believers and skeptics alike.

By Brian on Saturday, February 9, 2002 - 02:58 pm:


By Anonymous on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 05:16 pm:

There's alot of things in this world that we dont understand, but we have "experts" that are going to tell us that they know other wise. this universe is very old and we will probably never know or understand what exisists or what previsously exsisted on this earth.


By Anonymous on Thursday, July 4, 2002 - 03:13 am:

i dont belive that these are living creatures as such, too little evidence (see Rhedd Riott's post)
But they could be like, probes, or 'spy cameras' if you wil, sent down form aliens to have a look around.
just some thoughts.

By Poo poo head on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 02:40 pm:

poo poo is yummy.

By Varuza on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:02 am:

JUst admit to those who know these unseen forces are there, you are AFRAID, we ave bee misguided for hundreds of years, when you reprogram your OWN thinking an enlightenment is bestowed upon you opening part of your mind not taught to exercise, we were never given these hidden texts due to selfish religious sects, they know we are not THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN, we are not the SUPREME BEINGS, why is it America the governmet creates wars on their behalf, telling you only what THEY think you should know, you believing it, SUPPORTING an unseen cause, going on their belief and you NEVER really having a say in anything...puppets on a string.....when you wake up from your american taught slumber and all supernatural is in your daily life, and your traumatized, one might have wished you had allowed an open mind and your own thoughts of recognition. Think for yor self for once,the unseen is real, we all have been lied to for hundreds of years and we are EXPENDABLE by your governments demise. I trust what I see, hear, search for ad when the facts are there one cannot deny...No disrespect or targeted bashings to anyone its just an open opinion...but one should condition their mind and thoughts to use for oneself, IT is safer to know YOU are in control of what you see and feel. fear is just another emotion over riding judgements. the SUPERNATURAL IS AN EVERDAY LIFE OCCURENCE and the images we see are real.......Society needs to come out from under the political hypnosis put on us since birth.

By MajandraSky1357 on Monday, October 7, 2002 - 11:00 pm:

Hi, i think i have seen Rods... or if not, it was something unexplainable. I saw these only twice with MY OWN EYES!! and once had a witness who also saw the same thing as i was seeing it... both times i was outside, the 2nd time both me and the other person with me watched these 'things' for about 15 minutes... we were not intoxicated or anything like that either. But we saw a cluster of almost sparkly things, some white, some more clear i guess.. and ever a couple black ones...they moved around pretty fast but all stayed within this clutter... i know, i know it sounds crazy!!! anyone have ANY explanation for this!!!!????

By ThE GrEy on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 05:59 pm:

You obviously need more sleep.

By Rene on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 06:06 am:

Here's something funny about evolution: it is limited
only by the physics that govern this universe. Much of
our own understanding of physics comes from the
study the the various animals, plants, fungi, etc. that
are out there. Look at Komodo Dragons, it's amazing
that they live at all. They don't produce any poisons,
but their bites are deadly due to the amount of
bacteria and virii they carry. They have, quite possibly,
the most robust immune system on this planet. Don't
quote me on that though.

If that's not amazing, how about the ability of
cockroaches to survive a nuclear blast? It's true, the
amount of radiation that most of them can survive is
the equivalent to that of the radiation generated by a
thermonuclear blast (
). Of course, I don't suggest anyone here go out and
test this on their own. I'm not sure whether I am to
take comfort in the fact that at least one animal will be
able to survive in the aftermath of a nuclear war, or to
just sit back and wait for "The Planet of the
Cockroaches" movie to come out.

I find it completely plausible that a creature could fly
through the air at speeds faster than are visible by the
naked eye. Rods don't seem so impossible to me.
I've seen humming birds fly around, and one really
cannot see their wings as they fly.

By Mephisto on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 02:53 am:

If Rods were real wouldn't this thing end up in some ones radiator by now. I as, The living Satan have imposed Rods upon all your pathetic minds. To show all you darrens that you have driven society into the hell I have created. You mock yourselfs with insects captured by your cheap cameras in a flawed introspect. I will be waiting in Hell to torture you nerds.

By Gluteus Maximus on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 03:05 am:

Dear sirs.. I have watched your so called rods. Several times on certain cable channels. I being well schooled, well informed and extremely intellegent have come to this conclusion. If so-called Rods do exist> I would like to see footage on 8 mil. film. This way,there could be no doubting the authenticity of ther existance. Because, with modern video equipment there is a chance of electronic anomalies. Sincerely yours Glutimus Maximus

By Rods on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 08:25 am:

Reading this post it is apparent that many people are skeptical due to ignorance.

Think about it, over the years we thought the world was flat. Just recently we discovered a cave where 16 new species of insects never seen before exist without any light. Look at our history of medicine, the things people believed were totally insane.

The reason has always been the same, humans think they are far more knowledgable than we really are. If something doesn't appear 'normal', its either lies or the paranormal.

A simple example can prove this, our theories of relativity and gravity are 'sound' in (OUR) scientific eyes. So how is it, that our so-called sound model cannot infact model a black hole? We cannot tell you, but we know they exist. And who says that life can only be carbon based? Some ignorant scientist. Come on, there will be life in forms we cannot even imagine throughout the universe, thinking we're the only life just proves how ignorant we really are.

Someone mentioned that rods don't bend, I'm afraid you're wrong. Theres footage of rods bending as they corner, I saw a program named Rods: Exposed where they were captured flying into, and out of caves. You can clearly see one bend as it flies in, turns around and flies out.

Also someone wanted to see a shadow, well, in the same program you can see a rod entering the same cave, and half of it is in, the other out. There is a CLEAR shadow two thirds along its body.

What made me laugh about that program is that it mentioned that one video captured rod was 33 feet long and travelled 6700 MPH (or something like that) and it said 'Scientists have yet to capture a rod', and at the same time showed this fat old bloke swinging with a butterfly net. HAhaa

By Rods on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 09:37 am:

The shadow pics are here:

By Toby on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 12:46 pm:

could be.people didn't discover things like germs and tapiers for ever so long,so who knows?it'd be really nifty.maybe they're visiters?'alien' parachuters?it'd be the best if the were creatures that were sentinent and frindly.and if the government would quit acting dumb and trying to hide/blow things up.who agrees w/me?

By Amy on Friday, July 4, 2003 - 02:21 pm:

I must agree with 'Rods'. Human intellegence is extremeley limited. I do not know if these "rods" exisit or not for I have never seen one. Nor do I know if they are alien visitors or not. No one does.

By Unkledak on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 02:40 am:

Ha! All you typical stereotypes! The shit gets deeper and deeper.

By Alexander darlington on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 09:15 am:

for the past few nights ive been having the same dream.
im liying in my bed and look and the clock on my video player and it says 0700 hours. i think to myself that i have get to school very soon so i get dressed and brush my teeth. i run out of the door and shout good bye to my family but there is no reply. i run out on to the road opposite my house and look up at the sky. it is pitch black and there is no movement around my neighbourhood so i think that i might of read the clock wroung so i turn around and staring right at me is a 7 ft tall alien wit browny green skin and it had massive eyes that where black. it stared at me for a while and then puts it hand on my face. that is where the dream always end and if any who reads this has had a dream similar or has any idea what it means could u please contact me via the email address below......

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By Andrew on Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - 07:49 pm:

Some rods are real, and some rods are not. Some rods are scratches in the film--Kodak and other companies can verify this. But some are obviously not. I have rods that clearly have shaded spots--scratches cannot create "shadow" areas. These shadows are often on the scratch themselves, if not on the surroundings. What they are, I do not know and nobody really has any right to guess in my opinion. That would be like guessing what kind of animal Bigfoot is. That is something you cannot discover until you actually catch one and study it.

They are out there, however, and very real. Have no doubt about that

By Rabid hobbit on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 08:54 am:

If rods are real how come nobody has found a dead one

By Michele B on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 07:18 am:

Well, this may be another hoax that someone wants to keep
alive, only to go on selling books or videos. Yes, there may be
new, yet undiscovered species on Earth, but rods do not
convince me

By Tommy Vercetti on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 11:11 am:

I think rods have nothing to do with UFO's, I think they are just an unknown lifeform of some kind...the reason why no one has found a dead rod may be the fact that they are made out of some kind of material that disappears after decomposition, like cartilige. Or maybe they are very rare. I mean people see for example UFO's everywhere in the world, but except a handful of cases(like Rosswell) they don't find a crashed UFO on every corner.

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