What's Your Theory on 2012?

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Is the world going to end in 2012? Some experts believe so. Do you? Why does the Mayan calendar end there abrubtly? Give us your thoughts and theories!

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By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 18, 2000 - 11:14 pm:

Elvis is coming! Get ready stop shaving your side-burns now or suffer the consequences.

By K.Presley on Saturday, January 22, 2000 - 05:17 am:

The Mayan calendar ending abruptly on that date is significant of a future message to be given to the Mayan descendants, if they study the ancient symbols, they will be able to decifer it has something to do with a holy ground of their people. They were after all, only prophets. not Gods!

By Rex mundi on Sunday, January 23, 2000 - 03:10 pm:

Do you really think the world's going to end in 2012? what "experts" predicted this? Maybe the mayans run out of numbers (math) to go farther. My panasonic vcr's calender goes up to the year 2098. Does that mean the the world's going to end or panasonic knows something we don't? or maybe their was no point in going any farther. IF you want to know a "real" prophecy listen to RUSH'S 2112. p.s. remember the world should have ended on JAN.1st! As the experts perdicted!

By Kal on Monday, January 24, 2000 - 09:33 pm:

I have been reading some of the statements posted on this site and i am quite surprised at some of the replys. I dont know anything about this subject or how this date was to be determined to be the end time all i know is that in the bible it clearly states that know man can predict the end of time only our father in heaven knows when this will be i think we should all turn to christ jesus son of the father and except his free gift of grace for the foregivenees of our sins and live each day for him and be ready for his glorious return for who do you know that would sacrafice thier life for you so you may have eternal life this time on earth is so short but eternity is forever you have a choice i pray that you make the right one god bless all

By JeffreyAlanMorse on Wednesday, February 9, 2000 - 02:21 am:

Tenala's message brought to my mind a famous quote
from Chief Seattle: "This we know: the Earth does
not belong to man; man belongs to the Earth. This
we know. All things are connected like the blood
which unites one family. All things are connected.
Whatever befalls the Earth, befalls the sons of
the Earth. Man did not weave the thread of life;
he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to
the web, he does to himself."

What is happening now on the planet is a direct
result of humans being disconnected from Nature
and from their higher selves. What will happen in
2012 is entirely dependent on the actions,
attitudes, and thoughts/beliefs of the human race.

Our heads are indeed empty. Empty of any original
thought. Those who have taken steps to reconnect
with Nature and their higher selves are freed from
this mental slavery, while others go around like
robots. Somewhere, some entity is saying "every
thing is going according to plan". This presence
seeks to suppress awareness of who and what we
really are, and has done so with most of the
human race since the beginning of recorded history

The year 2012, I feel, has something to do with
the growing planetary consciousness, and that we
humans may awaken to full awareness by then.


By BRIAN on Friday, March 3, 2000 - 05:14 pm:


By Fallen_angel4_2000 on Thursday, March 9, 2000 - 08:38 pm:

i think that the mayans where a very advanced

By Reincarnite on Thursday, March 9, 2000 - 08:52 pm:

I think that, the myans believed that when the planets lined up that it would stop time as they knew it and as we know it today.Not nessecerly come to an end but stop,there would know longer be time because we would not revolve around the sun but be "stuck" if you will,because of the magnetic pull of the planets.Yes there calender is off what???Like thrirty seconds or what ever mabey it was'nt,mabey our time is just slowing down because it is closer to the allignment of the plants and the closer they get the slower it is to push or pull away from the planet we are closer to causeing time to slow down,and the myans new this would happen so thier calander just went that far.

By One hunaphu on Wednesday, March 15, 2000 - 09:05 am:

I believe 2012, in which our sun will align directly with the center of our galaxy, will herald a new golden age for humanity,unfotunatly the time up until then will be difficult.We live in the end times,look around you,famine,flood,earthquake,volcanic eruptions,violent weather patterns its all happening now. Billions of people are suffering.One person can make a difference. For all the vaunted power the illumminati posses, their grip on the people and the earth is weakening. Break free of the great decepton and take your rightful place as an individual and equal.

By Anthony Crain on Sunday, March 19, 2000 - 02:48 am:

i have been given the original leay lines of the earth so that all science and religion will be one
the poles will shift and we will come to realize that we are the ones that actually shift the poles
we are slowly raising the akashic memory sew that those that remain after great earthen devastation
shall have heaven, paradise on earth. We will no longer wonder where we come from. We will know ALL ah yes we ha linguistics are babel only a rudimentary part of universal memory lettuce pray

By Little Flower on Sunday, March 19, 2000 - 07:05 pm:

I think because of 2012 there will be alot of mass sucides by cults and stuff and like Y2K people will worry maybe even panic i'm not really sure whats gonna happen will have to wait until then

By Anonymous on Tuesday, March 21, 2000 - 07:35 pm:

Even subudians reckon 2012 is going to be an important year. Bapak (the founder) even spoke of ET's/ebe's etc (Subud...an Indonesian derrived religious gathering of all faiths and denominiations...pretty cool people actually...)


By Anonymous on Monday, March 27, 2000 - 12:22 am:

Not much going happen... just hell

By Anonymous on Saturday, April 1, 2000 - 04:31 pm:

2012 is a date we should be aware of, but a planetary alignment coinciding with the solar sunspot 11yr peak (both mid 2000) could wreak havoc on the earths electromagnetic field(Thats right people, Gravity has NOTHING to do with the problems we might face)With Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Venus & Mercury on one side of the sun and poor Earth on the other. The five planets may intensify the already high coronal ejections sending powerful solar storms our way, the Geomagnetic stress has the potential to cause further volcanic eruptions, earthquakes and violent weather patterns. If you live on a tectonic plate boundary or coastline, think carefully about where you want to be this May. .

By Anonymous on Tuesday, April 4, 2000 - 10:09 am:

there is no such things as ufo that is a fact people who belive in it are very very crazy in need help from god .ok

By Kelly Jones on Tuesday, April 4, 2000 - 10:15 am:

why do people belive in ufo I DONT IS SO SO CAZY

By Chris Dickerson on Friday, April 7, 2000 - 08:18 pm:

Regardless where your wandering minds are about the future of the human race and all ensuing nightmares and fantasies; common sense and level thinking should bring about some pretty straight forward answers.
Man is inevitably flawed, and at best, we have short-comings that, when figured in the grand scheme, is detrimental to our fellow man. The basic premise is: You can please some of the people all the time and all the people some of the time but you can't please all the people all the time. And with each of us having different concerns, no matter how upstanding or well-intent,
friction will ensue and that's in favorable conditions. A few billion people and the next thing you know: world turmoil. But when you slow down and look around and soak in the natural beauty of life, you must acknowledge some simple facts: All the wonderful things and people that are out there, could not have possibly just sprouted from the mud(or even some other elaborate paleontology theory). When you look at the Mona Lisa or Mount Rushmore, you automatically know an intelligent being created it. Same applies to us, even if we don't 'appear' special at times. Do your self justice, search your soul; if I'm wrong, I have lost nothing; if your wrong, you've lost your salvation, and possibly others that you have influence over, whether you know you do or not.My prayers to all.

By Crap on Friday, April 28, 2000 - 03:29 pm:

nothing will happen. you all got a vivid imagination.

By Tiffany SpiritWind on Saturday, April 29, 2000 - 12:22 am:

I'm not sure what will happen though I do think that we should try to do the best that we possibly can in caring for our Earth and the inhabitants on it before we begin to worry about the end. Also, no calendar goes on forever. I bet they probably just stopped making it like ours stops every December.

In the meantime, CARE FOR YOUR EARTH and don't think about the future, think of the present.

By Anonymous on Saturday, May 13, 2000 - 02:40 am:

We are all living in this world of uncertainty and there is no better way than to prepare ourselves for the FINAL CONFLICT, which may happen anytime affecting the entire human race or our very own individual lives

By Shiznac the wize...ass on Sunday, May 28, 2000 - 01:03 am:

I think it would be bad if the world ends.....I mean what would we speculate and make predictions about if that happened. Maybe when we stop thinking the world will end we can focus on living in the here and now.... nhaaa that will remind us of how screwed up we are.

"keep you feet on the ground and keep reaching for somthing to hang on to when it fall from beneith you."

By Anonymous on Thursday, June 8, 2000 - 03:13 am:

From what I can gather the Myan calender was based more on the movement of the sun that on the movement of the earth. It would appear that on that date the sun's activity will cause sterility of all people on earth.

One of the Myan pyramids has a floor of solid formica. The massive piece of rock was carved out of mountain some 20 kms away and was transported to the pyramid. How they managed to hack a piece of solid rock the size of football field out of the mountain, transport it to the pyramid and raise it in place is not as mystifying as to WHY they would want to do it. One theory is that this sheet of formica (which is known to have insulative properties) was to protect them from the suns radiation during 2012 and thereby prevent sterility.

My personal theory is that the guy who drew up the calander figured he would'nt be around in 2012 so he did'nt bother doing any more work on it.

By Anonymous on Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 09:47 am:

2011 , 11 August
is the doomsday

By Nathus on Friday, June 30, 2000 - 10:24 pm:

Oh, doom this.

By Anonymous on Saturday, July 8, 2000 - 06:51 pm:


By Anonymous on Sunday, July 9, 2000 - 02:26 am:

It's a sad commentary to see the mentality of people. They're reacting exactly like those who lived during biblical times. Times that were fraught with superstition(which continues today).
Doomsayers, soothsayers, seers and prophets were so prevalent than that anything they said conjured up fear of the end of the world. And that was over 2,000 years ago and continues on today. Humans will accept a lot nebulous crap such as biblical prophecies which afterall were written and embellished upon by men. These stories were passed down generation after generation and somewhere along the way the real meaning of what was originally written was lost or altered to fit someone else's idea of what happened back then. Too many people can't differintiate between fiction and reality and unfortunately it's all too common. 2012 will come and go like any other year then someone will have to come up with another end of the world scenario to placate the superstitious masses once again.

By Ben ley on Monday, July 17, 2000 - 10:23 am:






By John K. on Monday, July 17, 2000 - 10:40 am:

Take the chance
to move your spirit
free together with
the sun

26.000 is an energy-gate

prepare to enter

love and strength Brother John

By Lazarus on Saturday, July 29, 2000 - 01:15 pm:

If I understand it properly the Mayans believed that the end would come when our technology turned on us. In a world that is being run more and more on computers perhaps 2012 will be the birth year of artificial intelligence. Being the violent fearful race that we are we may atempt to destroy it. If the AI is sentient would it not stop at nothing for self preservation? In such a case the "END" would come either from 1)it destroying us, thus no more humans. or 2) us destroying our own technology, thus going back to square one.

By Anonymous on Wednesday, August 9, 2000 - 10:51 pm:

I must say the majority of you people are nuts. It is now 2000 and the world has not ended yet so people have got it into their heads that they should start stocking up once again for another "calamity" that will occur in 2012.Why can't you people all see that it is nothing but pure bull! The world WILL NOT END IN 2012 I just hope the few among you with any common sense will realize that its just bs pure and simple.

By Richard Fox on Friday, August 11, 2000 - 09:14 pm:

If anything drastic is to happen, the earth's upper crust will probably break and shift violently. This act will be so violent that we sould see crust displacement hundreds of miles in spots. All ocurring and moving within minutes or hours. Tidal waves thousands of feet high, 500 mph winds. A long thousand year ice age may follow as the poles may have deviate or shift. Most will not survive. Those that do will in fact be the "dawn of a new man" I feel that The Myans were blessed by incredible intelligence. There is so much OBJECTIVE evidence of advanced ancient civilizations, yet our bought main stream media ignores it. These ancient civilizations have built pyramids all over the world that were astronomicaly alligned with star patterns in the sky from 10,500 years ago. They were wiped out by a tremendous unknown cataclysm and ice age 10-13 thousand yeas ago. I dont know what is going to happen on 12-23-2012, but it will be a helluva ride if these ancient cultures werent blowing smoke.

By Admin on Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:33 pm:


It is obvious that our civilization
is not the first to be technologically
There were those that came before us
that were totally wiped out by something
we have yet to understand.
There are just oo many holes to call the
Pyramids and technology that surrounds
them chance. In some ways, they were
ahead of us.

By Anonymous on Friday, August 25, 2000 - 12:59 pm:

Will it end?.....I don't know. I don't think anyone really can say for sure. I just hope I get a good raise before then!

By Topaz on Saturday, September 9, 2000 - 07:58 am:

Ever since the worlds begun theres been scary theories about when it'll end.Why don't we just enjoy it now instead of scaring ourselves shitless about what the future holds?

By Sarah on Saturday, September 9, 2000 - 08:03 am:

It'll end sooner if we don't clean up our act!Us enviromental activists have been telling you for years that you're slowly destroying earth by poulluting it, how come you only sit up&take notice when some phsycic starts screaming it'll be wiped out by a supernatural force?!

By BRUCE WILLIS on Friday, September 15, 2000 - 05:25 pm:

I SURE HOPE IT HITS SOON! I can't stand reading any more of these stupid messages!!!

By Watchman on Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 12:39 am:

No man knows the hour or the day of our Lord's return...However I do not recall any scripture that states no man knows the hour or the day of the Earth's rebirth. In scripture I can find evidence that we are not on the original earth that the planet has been re-done so to speak several times. Changes are already occurring in the realm of our reality. We are a more technological race with rapidly declining moral and social values. If 2012 is the year this world as we know it ends so be it my soul is with Christ, and I am prepared spiritually to join my fallen kinsmen and the Man/God who gave everything to fight for me. I can see this happenning soon. I am a very spiritually intuned individual. It seems to me we as a race have turned our backs to God and deserve a good slap! however I feel that this is a more natural event than a spiritual one. Sometimes a dog's gotta shake off the fleas and I feel that this polar shift will do just that. Only one thing can stop this event from happenning and that is devine intervention! Will I take precautions? Will I put my faith in man,Maya, or God? WILL WE PARISH? Could be all of the above ...learn to pray. I believe we are energy beings and these things we call human bodies are mere sponges that hold our true selves... we are the waters that flow into the ocean of life powered by one true God whoever you might call him...as for me...I call him FATHER. Be strong, and one way or another you will survive.

By Okmit on Friday, September 22, 2000 - 01:04 am:

The actual calender we use may have little to do with what happens in 2012. As this site will tell you, the human mind can affect changes in it's environment. If a large enough group of these minds all believe something will happen at a certain time (say, sometime in the year 2012), then whether or not something was going to happen, something WILL happen.

By Anonymous on Monday, September 25, 2000 - 09:07 am:

Just because the myan calender ends in 2012 dosent
mean its the end! I think some people want the
world to end because there so unhappy.
Are preseptions of the world are what are minds
beleave its seeing or smelling,but we can't
always beleive it.Take time for example!
Time is man made and did not exsist before man
came along.You don't see animals running around
whereing watches! Time is a way for man to organise his day for planting, keeping track of
the seasons but nothing more. I beleave the myan
calender was an on going work to be adjusted at
certain earth cycles but something happend?
Are calender is not perfect and has and will have
to be adjusted at some point so let's not get
to bent out of shape! If you still beleave the
end is near,and this calender is your only basis
for that then, brother i think you have a little
sole searching to do!

By Bionic Boy on Friday, September 29, 2000 - 10:47 am:

Okay even though I am 14 I still think, by putting together facts of what is said to happen in the near future, have something worth thinking about.
A lot of psychics have predicted that soon the human race will make contact with an alien race and we will co-exist as one. Now maybe, just maybe these aliens will take us to a planet similar or maybe even better then our earth today. Now thats just a posability... not necicarily what I think will totaly happen but it can. Now a few months ago I had a dream that everything the book of virtues speaks about was happening and I dont feel like I should say the year because I am religeos and I dont think it is needed but if you want the year e-mail me at mattk@bigblink.com... yes it was just a dream but usually I dont have dreams that dont mean something. In the dream everything on earth was different but I dont want to go into detail about that. One thing I didn't understand is that later about 6 years later I was fighting in a war and diffending the cross. Unfortunatly I dont recall what I was diffending it from. The world will never end... it will continue without humans and the earth will be plunged into another ice age if the biblical stuff I was talking about dosen't happen (even though I think it will). I know this because the sun is a star... stars burn out... none of us alive today will live to see this happen because the sun should last another million years or so... then a few more years for the speed of light to actually make the sun go out on earth. So can we see history doing a rewind on us... in this new ice age is the earth going to be covered with mamoths and saber-toothed cats? After this ice age ends will there be dinosours? Humans? Modern Animals? Or some other species that dosent, and never has existed? Well... only time will tell.

By TryThisOneOut on Wednesday, October 18, 2000 - 09:51 pm:

2012 is the year the last free human is fitted with their bio-engineered identity chip. That is the year we all end up as slaves to the World Government, and lose our souls. It is the year that I will be living under-ground in a secret society patiently awaiting my execution and transformation into the light. Unless my alarm goes off and wakes me. Then it will be another crappy day at work.

By BELIEVER on Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 10:38 pm:

All I can say is open your eyes, turn to the Lord Jesus Christ and get saved. Look what's going on around you. Everything is unfoldind the way it was meant to. For all of you who do not believe or have turned your back on God, He still loves you no matter what, and if you haven't given your heart to him yet, He'll continue to love you even if it is all the way to eternal damnation or hell so please ask Jesus for forgivness and ask him into your heart and serve him whole-heartedly. And stop entertaining these silly questions about when the world will end and trust in the lord for the Word says only God knows when his time is!

By Paraseek Webmaster (Admin) on Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 03:23 pm:

Um Bionic Boy,

I know your just 14 and don't know much astrology yet, but it only takes minutes for light to reach the earth from the Sun, not years.

Also, as a matter of science, the earth will not exist when the sun finally burns out. The first stages of its end will see it expand to the point at which it engulphs the inner solar system and if it doesn't extend out to earth's orbit, earth will be melted away completely long before the sun fades.

So as for the earth, it will always be lit (albeit hot as hell) till the end.

By Anonymous on Friday, October 27, 2000 - 06:54 am:

Wow, 14 and doesn't know the stages in the lifespan of a star!? Isn't that the kind of thing you learn in the 3rd grade??? Oh, well I guess even then you have to be paying attention!

This brings up a problem I'm been noticing in all things paranormal or scientific in the public consciousness. What is with the documentaries on TV these days??? Being Halloween the airwaves are flooded with so called "documentaries" about spirit phenomena. These "docutainmentaries" however have lately consisted mainly of staccato footage of some mental hospital or abandonned prison with some over produced "spooky" graphics and voice overs. This is all due the wildly, yet still in my mind inconceivable successful run of THE BLAIR WITCH NONSENSE (which has done so much damage to any serious research of the paranormal). The main breadth of the investigations on these shows usually involves some idiot, slackjawwwed 20/30somethings (and incidently I'm in my late 20's so please no "you're just too old to get it! recriminations) going into said decaying mental hospital with steady-cams on, scaring themselves like kids in a carnival funhouse (which essentially they are) and then running out terrified. What is their observation of paranormal activity? - "I, like, totally felt something in there! It was, like, totally evil!"

Am I the only person who sees a problem with this? Of course there are still (thank heavens) serious researchers still out there. But even they must be a little dismayed by these spook shows that diminish the precious bit of credibility for which they constantly fight.

Enough of this X FILE, BLAIR WITCH, SCI-FI CHANNEL nonsense! I love a good horror or sci-fi book or film as much as the next guy, but I think this is just another example of increased demand having an adverse effect on product. Let's wake up.

By Marx on Tuesday, October 31, 2000 - 06:09 am:

The world will end as we know it and a new order will arise, the new world order and it's coming soon just look at your American dolla bill. Only kiddin stop being paranoid the worlds already changed thanks to a man 2000 years ago who never wrote a book, led an army or owned anything. Although people will always be greedy and start wars just like they always have done. But hay im going to live for ever anyway. Anyone heard about new comunisim

By Marx on Tuesday, October 31, 2000 - 06:12 am:

The world will end as we know it and a new order will arise, the new world order and it's coming soon just look at your American dolla bill. Only kiddin stop being paranoid the worlds already changed thanks to a man 2000 years ago who never wrote a book, led an army or owned anything. Although people will always be greedy and start wars just like they always have done. But hay im going to live for ever anyway. Anyone heard about new comunisim

By Anonymous on Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 08:33 pm:

I have read the messages posted here and those who are here to actually learn something should keep trying, those of you that are here just to put others down about their beliefs should get a life! The myan civilasation is a highly respected race who dissapeared... the only remains that have been found of them are their buildings. I don't believe that the world itself is going to end but that human kind is going to evolve and transform into a higher spirituality without Jesus.

By Anonymous on Monday, January 29, 2001 - 11:41 pm:

Ummm, I think there are a few deluded people out
there that think they know everything, remember
beliefs are subjective and this is just all
theory. There is no real evidence until the event
has occured.
In 2012 I think there will be many changes and
they will be only catastrophic to unadaptable
Apocalype, basic translation to be revealed, hence
This to me just means enlightenment. 2012 is
about the time that the age of Pieces ends and the
age of aqurius goes into full swing. Age of
Piece's being the age of illusion, the time of
jesus, symbol Fish. The human race needs a new
corner stone to hinge its beliefs and faith in.
It is talked that in 2012 that history will end.
This doesn't mean the end of the world, this is
obviously a reference to postmodern life, maybe
the majority of the population will live by an
existencualist philosophy.

History ending? Well the way I see history ending
, is by the realization that again history is
based on subjective veiws, politics, wornout
religions, and is in itself an illusion. How much
do you people know of eastern history? Jack! How
many americans know where there country is on the
globe? Our knowledge is always being updated and
corrected. The reality is that our history is not
fixed, it always changes acording to new
technology, new language, new religion, new
findings and new politics. History is Dead!

Now for you bible bashers. Get a life, you are
the ones that need to be saved, that is why you
joined your church, you only go around trying to
save people to distract yourself from the fact
that nothing really has saved you and to feel good
about yourselves and that your not useless. God
with all his infinite wisdom understands people
that dont want to have anything to do with your
petty small mindedness. Why would god just only
know and look after you? Get some scope kids.
The universe is infinite! You think that on this
tiny rock in one solarsystem in a small galaxy
amoung uncountable galaxys and universes, that
knowing about a little happening in the middle
east 2000 years is the only way to enlightenment
or heaven. Look out your Window Fool.

I do respect christians dont get me wrong. But
when one tells me I need to be saved, boy,
watchout! Just in the act of doing that they are
beliving that you are going to go to hell unless
you listen to them. That is one of the most
judgemental actions in my own experience. Someone
who is unenlightened judging your life worth.

Mr X. From
we are in this directory.

Come and look at our forums

By Anonymous on Monday, January 29, 2001 - 11:47 pm:

I heard that 2005 is going to be far worse because
the rats tail is going to be in

By Tracy Simone Hudson on Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 10:13 am:

Hey Mr X chill!!

You know we operate in the supernatural realm lots.
Narrowminded?? nah...
The spirit we operate under completely dominates any that you operate under.
Is that a challenge?
Sure is.

By George Orwell on Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 10:20 am:

Guy and gals, if your going to pretend you know something on this topic you could atleast give the mayans some respect and spell their name right.

By Anonymous on Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 03:26 pm:

The accuracy of the Myan Calander is impressive and required a sophisticated scientific understanding of astronomical movements and may well have evolved from astronomical observations of ancient mariners.
It is widely held that the first inhabitants of the new world arrived via.the Bering Strait but the Polynesians successfully populated the tropical islands of the Pacific.
If they (Ancient Mariners) found their way to Latin America the arcitects of the Myan calander may have had access to astranomical record of sufficient accuracy and antiquity to succesfuly identify an astronomical cycle or phenomenon that is not identifyed by the "Western Calander"
Involved in all this is a recurrent theme of sequential times or worlds discribed by indigenous peoples. These times are of many milenia. In time referance of this scope 100 years is a fleeting moment. This last century heralded awsome tecno/culture change and we find ourselves in a time apart.
In my opinion--If nothing out of the "ordinary" happens in 2012 I still find it a bit uncanny how closely this date aproximates Cristian Mellinia and catistrophic changes that have occured in the last 80 or so years.
If 2012 heralds more sweeping change than already of record then it will be one humdinger of a year indeed.

By Geogina on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 05:47 pm:

Tracy the only thing you operate under is constant
supervision. One day mum and dad might let you
out! Saying you belive in a more powerful god than
MrX, should embarrass you. What are you, some
tribal elder? Dont you know that the real creator
is indivisble, nameless, sexless, timeless and
infinite. Nothing your little clutching mind could
ever grasp. How is Jesus's little distorted story
ever going to save something living on the other
side of the galaxy? Have you ever read the real
bible? Big Fat NO!

Case Closed!

By Anonymous on Friday, February 16, 2001 - 05:53 pm:

Mayan, Mayan, Mayan. That is how you spell it!!


By Tracy Simone Hudson on Monday, February 26, 2001 - 04:40 am:

Geogina, tribal elder me? ha!! no.
I am a royal priesthood.
More than a conqueror.
You seem very agitated, you know, what I said earlier still stands, as the truth stands up for itself.
You need to know the love of Jesus for you, His mercy, His grace, it conquers everything, everything.
Even your disbelief!!
At His name every knee, every teaching, every other thing that exalts itself against Him will bow.
I stand confident in my belief and the challenge still stands.
Tracy Simone Hudson

By Fungusoverlord on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 12:25 pm:

Well said Tracy.............

One question........what are all of you smoking and where can I get some????

I see posts about visions while under LSD and blasphemy towards Jesus (you know he's the one that died for us).

You people need a reality check.

By Tracy Simone Hudson on Monday, April 2, 2001 - 09:25 am:

The reality is, yes Jesus died for us.
All of us. regardless of anything and everything.
Mindblowing really.
Fungusoverlord, tell me, just where are u coming from on this one..I am confused.
U know I know the supernatural exists, but I also know we have two spiritual realms. The realm of satan and the realm of God.
The devil has the power to see into our futures (fortune tellers) albeit a limited power. (and yes there are cranks) The oujaboard does work, I know it. Spells and curses carry power, undoubtedly some are very powerful, ghosts do exist I believe it.
But I know having been on the devils side and coming into Gods kingdom, which side gives me a peace I have never known, satisfies the questions I had been asking all those years. Gives me reality and truth, and a God who really loves me for me. A God who can set all free, who heals disease (freely), and delivers the depressed and oppressed.

By Tracy Simone Hudson on Monday, April 2, 2001 - 09:36 am:

You see there is a spiritual realm. Here in the UK folk mock that (most folk that is).
In Africa they readily accept it. They are aware that natural circumstances are moved many times by the spiritual realm. One African told me that when some one is sick over there they go many times straight to the witchdoctor...why not pray to God I asked. Because with the witchdoctor we see quick results they reply.
And they are right. But what they dont know is that with any demonic power that heals, is that there is always a price to pay in some other way.
When God heals its because Jesus paid the price.
There is a time in God when we have to be persistent in prayer and patient until we break thru and see results. We have to seek the face and voice of God.

By Tracy Simone Hudson on Monday, April 2, 2001 - 09:41 am:

So if there be any out there, and I know I am addressing somebody who is seeking truth reading this....then persist in your search for truth. I did I found jesus, I found that all my young life I was looking for something seeking, searching, becoming a witch for a short time. realising that it wasnt meeting my needs and infact caused me great depression and disatisfaction.
Only now can my soul have peace and my spirit can sing because I have found my Daddy, my Lord and my God. Be blessed.

Tracy Simone Hudson

By Myst on Monday, April 16, 2001 - 11:54 pm:

I Beleive the world should continue, however there is strong evidence to prove that the end of the wrold should arive at that time

By Anonymous on Wednesday, May 2, 2001 - 06:24 am:

look people, lets get down to basics. first off, history repeats its self. civilizations come and go, and there really is nothing we can do about it. it might be the end of the world and it might not. i doubt it is b/c so many times people have predicted the end of the world on so many different dates that earth should be space dust by now if they were true. back during the civil war they thought it was the end of the world, and the leader of the south at that time was believed to be the antichrist, as was hitler, as was hannibal, and others. we are always gonna have some crazy nutcase try and take over the world or destroy everything that means anything to people.

secondly, religions all have their end times. none are set in stone. they all have to have a set of things that MUST definatly happen for the world to end. some of the things have happened, but they also have happened many times. i am not gonna try and impose on everybody what i believe (religiously wise), but many people believe in one form of religion or another. another thing on this: how many people do you know practice the mayan religion? i have not met or even heard of anybody now days that does. besides, from what i have heard and read, they used many "mind expanding" plants in many of their cerimonies and that their priests used quite frequently.

third, all you people that think that we are gonna be visited by aliens, why worry about it if we do? i have never seen a ufo or been abducted by aliens, but that doesn't mean they aren't out there. i just think they would have done something by now if they were gonna do something. reason for thinking this: if they have all this great advanced technology, then why would they make a deal with the gov't when they could commit experiments anyway and there wouldn't be anything we could do to stop them? think about that one.

if the world ends, it ends. there is no point worrin' about it. just go out and enjoy life, be kind to others, and live everyday to its fullest. there is no point in getting all worked up over the inevitable.

By Gesna on Tuesday, June 5, 2001 - 05:19 pm:

actually the date for mayan world end is 23rd 2012.

Just for you to know :)

By Gesna on Tuesday, June 5, 2001 - 05:21 pm:

...december 23rd 2012.

By Matthew on Thursday, June 7, 2001 - 02:44 pm:

Oh GREAT... Just my luck ill have done all my XMAS Shopping and then the freaking WORLD is gonna END! How rude.

Maybe i shouldnt do my xmas shopping.......... hmm.. but if i wake up on the 24th and have no shopping done... that would SUCK!!!

those Wacky Mayans....

By Syndy on Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 04:52 am:

i dont know about myans or hopies or whatever...but everyone said the world was going to end in 2000 and nothing happened..in the bible there are signs to tell you when the world will end..i am not preaching...but i do know for a fact that the signs are in the book...and another thing i heard...i heard the world will end when ever becomes gay or lesbian..is that true? will the world end like Sodam and Gamor(or how ever its spelled) destroyed!...think about it

By Dhodi on Saturday, June 30, 2001 - 07:29 pm:

I searching 4 info on lizards amongst us? Any body with knowledge please..................

By Zo Moss on Friday, July 6, 2001 - 02:58 am:

Should the world end on that dreadful date, than
I'll just be unhappy. I wanna live!!!!! But I was
forced to watch a video on the Maya in school...
It started out all nice an' happy, with how the
Maya were a VERY advanced race of natives... than
it got into this freaky type of thing were the
narrator practically yelled at us "THE MAYA
*blahblah*, 2012!!!!" I was scared not only
because of hearing this, but also thanks to the
yelling narrator. But I personally don't believe
the world will end on this date. I think that if
we are to all parish, it will be from all the
damage to the earth or from the sun burning out.
Also, I do not like the bible... This is not just
because I'm Jewish (I'm Jewish, Caitholic, and
Hindu), but from I've heard of the bible... I
tried to read it. It seems that the men who wrote
it were just prissy little guys who saw god and
thought he told them to be mean.. Well, that's me

By Zo Moss on Friday, July 6, 2001 - 03:06 am:

If anything should parish on the 23rd or whatever
in the year of 2012, it should be... Uh... Mean,
hateful people with no love in their hearts. Why?
Cause they do weird things.... PERVERTED

By Mike E. on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 08:30 am:

Ick. The world is going to end in the year 5 Billion,people,when our sun will become a red dwarf star and (literally) fry us all. Temps will escalate,our star might even go nova.

By Fabius on Wednesday, August 8, 2001 - 10:26 am:

The maya people used another calendar. The year 2012 was found by the white people, the same which destroyed their culture. The calculation for 2012 is probably not correct since our calendars (Gregorian and Julian, specially Julian) were full of mistakes.

Anyway, the maya people believe a great world desaster would happen in 2012 or whatever near 2012. This desaster is the pole shift predicted by many other prophets. The aztecs and incas also believed some day in the future the sun would disappear (3 days of darkness prophecies) followed by many natural desasters (flood, vulcanoes, earthquakes). If we look the myths and legends of other south american cultures, sometimes we will find descriptions of old catastrophes and sometimes prophecies of this next one. This year, 2012, is certainly an approximate date for the pole shift desaster. I read near 500 books on prophecies in different cultures and I know what I am talking about. The "global warming" is the beginning of the pole shift. The globe is warmer only in the North hemisphere. Please check NASA temperature maps and you will find some cities very in the south of South America, South Africa and Australia are even 2 C colder while in the north are sometimes 2 c hotter than 50 years ago. The slow pole shift is already happening. The sudden desaster will happen soon. Cayce predicted 50 years of slow pole shift and so the sudden one. The 50 years of slow pole shift have already happened. Check NASA maps if you think this is all stupid bull shit.

"Europe will have the sky of Africa and Africa of Europe. Mankind and animals will change of hemispheres at once."

Leonardo da Vinci prophecy.

By Phgnome on Monday, September 3, 2001 - 08:42 pm:

The whole thing about the end of the world frightens me. I think 2012 may be a ballpark figure. The possibility of a comet hitting us doesn't seem so remote. The possibility of world war doesn't seem remote, either.

I've just read some of the comments about the bible and the role religion plays in this predicting the end of the world. I can respect the fact that many people do not believe in the bible.

However, when discrediting such an ancient library (yes, the bible is considered a "library"). To some degree, I believe it holds maybe half a grain of truth. Consider this scenario: what if an alien culture from a neighboring solar system were to visit us. Upon discovering that this civilization (i.e. humanity) is not as advanced as theirs may be, one cannot, out of compassion and the fear of being alone as an intelligent species, realize that this species WILL one day develop technology to go to the heavens, one cannot walk away from the duty of informing this other intelligent species that there is danger -- that it is critical to be able to move worlds of intelligent civilizations across the galaxies. They probably realized for one reason or another that they couldn't stick around to prevent a comet from hitting us. This, perhaps, is the "test" that the bible talks about on Judgement Day. Keep an open mind: the object of the game is to pass onto the next stage of evolution. Think about this: Noah's Ark. Are we really sure that Noah's Ark is a boat? Could the Ark not really be a space lab that contained the DNA of all animals?

Now, think about this: If you were a member of the more advanced civilization, how would you ensure that future generations (the ones who will face the Judgement Day crisis) will be able to receive your message (in terms of technology used to destroy any comets crossing earth's path and in terms of ?coordinates?). How would you tell them where to find you? How would you ensure for the safety of your own people that the intelligent beings who will come to seek you will mean you no harm? The answer is simple: indoctrinate them with a religion. The objective of religion is to help you live with yourself and maintain order in a society. If one were to scatter the pieces of the puzzle amongst many different groups, it would ensure that the only way they will be able to piece together the puzzle is to work together (this involves compromise on the part of all parties) towards the betterment of the human race. If we could overcome our differences, we could overcome an enormous puzzle. It would ensure that the pieces will come together only if we are peaceful and able to co-exist with one another. THAT is the true test of our ability to move up the evolution ladder.

For example, if a comet were heading towards earth, we could destroy it if we put all our technologies together and worked towards a common goal. However, we are not doing that. We are fighting with each other about the nitty gritty details such as who has rights to what shrine/temple. Does that REALLY matter when we're discussing the fate of humanity? We seemed to have become obsessed with life after death. I see so much senseless violence resulting in death today. It is obvious that we are still fixed on looking after #1 that trivial things have upped themselves on our priority list.

Yet, though the clock is ticking, we continue to fight amongst one another.

I respect what every religion has to say but I think that some people take it too literally. The rules dictated by religion are meant to serve as a guideline in the way to exist to achieve the higher state (can the elevated state represent the survival of the fittest). The answer seems self-evident to me -- but I can understand why some people have missed the point in it all.

The bible speaks of a false messiah before the "end days". The Divine Book of the Revelations of St. John describes the seven candle sticks flying and talking to the author. Take note that the ancient man may describe nuclear missiles in space as "candlesticks". Note that there are seven of them and that they're all flying together. In the current age of plate tectonics, there are seven continents. Can it not symbolize the unity of the seven continents working together?

As well, keep in mind that many people have tampered with the text of the current King James bible. We may not have the full meaning because of human error during translation and because of orders from people such as King James so that it reads in accordance with the king's agenda. Critical books such as The Book of Enoch were eliminated altogether. If you're interested, try a lookup and someone out there will have a copy posted. It sounds a lot like he was in a spacecraft of some kind (such as a crystal hall where Enoch saw it glow). He would not have had a word for spacecraft or time travel or wormhole.

The stories sound fantastical enough where it's easy to write them off as works of fiction and just as easy to believe that they are too fantastical to be true. But think about it: the authors knew nothing about the machines that could be built or the dangers that exist outside our atmosphere but it doesn't make what they saw any less valid.

By Anonymous on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 01:01 pm:

as far as the world ending, it will when we die, believe it or not, government is doing everything possible to stay alive, i should know i work here. we have cures for aids and cancer. let me put it to you this way people, we the government are doing everything to control the population and by scaring you, some of you will commit suicide. supernatural things do exist, but as far as the world ending, believe me its not even near. But do hear me on this, supernatural apparations, ghosts, hauntings, and ufos do very much exists. good bye and i hope many of you read my comment. if i leave my name you will never hear from me again for i will be killed, goodbye to all, with tears in my eyes, cures are here for many viruses and illnesses, sad to say i cant hand them down to you, i hope some makes this public for the world to see and maybe just maybe the government will have to hand it down, cures for aids and cancer, diabeties, and everything else, we are very intelligent people . good bye for now.

By Anonymous on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 01:01 pm:

as far as the world ending, it will when we die, believe it or not, government is doing everything possible to stay alive, i should know i work here. we have cures for aids and cancer. let me put it to you this way people, we the government are doing everything to control the population and by scaring you, some of you will commit suicide. supernatural things do exist, but as far as the world ending, believe me its not even near. But do hear me on this, supernatural apparations, ghosts, hauntings, and ufos do very much exists. good bye and i hope many of you read my comment. if i leave my name you will never hear from me again for i will be killed, goodbye to all, with tears in my eyes, cures are here for many viruses and illnesses, sad to say i cant hand them down to you, i hope some one makes this public for the world to see and maybe just maybe the government will have to hand it down, cures for aids and cancer, diabeties, and everything else, we are very intelligent people . good bye for now.

By Sammy on Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 06:51 pm:

If it does all end on that day it will find me sitting out enjoying the tropical weather of south florida and singing a Jimmy Buffett song ( maybe he went to paris) and not regretting a thing.

By COYOTE on Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 07:30 pm:

The time and the date of the end was set in advance by our LORD I hope he comes soon because it really sucks down here.

By SHANE on Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 10:39 pm:


By MALEFICIA on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 04:13 am:

Please do not knock on my front door...On my only day off at 8:00 am ...Every saturday morning...You know who you are... Please...Don't even think like that...We are all gonna live normal lives...Our childrens, childrens, childrens,....etc...We will all live in peace...O.K... Breath...relax... "smile" MALEFICIA...PROF559@AOL.COM

By Cvan8365 on Friday, November 9, 2001 - 02:19 am:

i believe we are going thru a learning process right now. we are suupposed to be learning how to live together with love and hope and unity. the events of the last months have opened our eyes as to how we should live our lives...caring about our brothers and sisters no matter what. we will never know when "the end" will come. by the way, " the end " is exactly what? the end of hate and prejudice and injustice? would that be so bad?

By Brian on Sunday, December 2, 2001 - 06:22 pm:

the mayans and nostradomus predicted the world would end right around the same time.

now, im athiest, but in the bible when the guy is predicting the end of the world, he says there would be seven years of peace or something somewhere in there.

my bro came up with the idea that maybe this ment that the seven years of peace there was in the middle east from 1993-2000 was the explanation. cause, lets face it, there will be no absolute peace ever.

By M.A.C. Lindholm on Thursday, December 6, 2001 - 06:07 am:

TO ALL WHO LIVE WITHIN THE NEW WORLD!I think the things that will transpire between now and 2012/2013(depending on what or who's callender you use) WILL signify the "end of the world", but dont blow the term out of perportion. If you open your eyes in the morning you will see that the world as we know it is no longer here, it has begun its 13 year tranformation into oblivion. All things known, contemporary standards, and what all of the poor souls of the old world hold to be true, will no longer work. Things will quite litteraly be replaced with somthing very different, I cant say if it is good or bad, just different. All of those who hold on to the old will have a expirience comparable to appocoliptic visions(turn on BBC tv). All of those who don't care will either burn or luck out. All of those who are AWARE will witness the birth of a NEW existance. There will be conflicts between the different schools of thought. It cant be avoided, but just as the forest burns to the ground, the world, both nature and man, will sprout a new growth. This the way of the infinate. The children of Abraham (Christian, Muslem, Jew), I fear for, their ancestors have all ready proficised their own end. And it will happen, even if someone tries to stop it. The children of Universal Law or cildren of the sun and moon (Aztecs, Mayans, Antient Egyptian, Antient Chinese, Druidic, and Pagan) will expirince a reberth. The children of the Spirit (Hindu, Budist) will move to the next chapter. By 2012 the cildren of the new god will be born, what that will be is yet to be seen, but I hope to see you there!!!

By Anonymous on Thursday, December 6, 2001 - 11:22 am:

Yeah right. Its hot in hell pal, I dont intend to see YOU there

By Brian on Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 11:12 pm:

he's right though, the world has started to end already.

im not afraid of death. im ready.

By Joe crow on Tuesday, January 1, 2002 - 10:40 pm:

What's all this about the world ending on Dec 23 2012? If you studied the myan calander at all, you would see that only the calander ends on that date. NOT THE WORLD. Nowhere on the calander does it say "the world ends here". It does however indicate that a spacecraft will be visiting us on that date. The same one that according to the same callander, has visited before. On the same date, the same year Christ was born. It would have probably been identified as being a star since airplanes and orbiting satelites weren't invented yet and birds didn't give off light in the night skies. A strange star like that would probably be given a name such as "Star of Bethleham" . Mary, mother of Christ, was probably the first documented case of "alien abduction" even though she didn't mention that part. Only the outcome. They would logically choose a virgin because she would be less likely to have any form of STD. Artificial insemination is a common phraise now a days . It can be done with a turkey baster. Back then it was unheard of. If our God was going to plant his seed in a human virgin, that's probably how he would go about it. Maybe not with a turkey baster but with a similar tool.
The calander stops there because not even the ancient Myans with there infinite wisdom would dare speculate on the reaction of a foolhardy society such as ours. If the airforce don't shoot it down, the outcome of that event will probably depend on our behavior to it.

By Anonymous on Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 02:13 am:

live ; love & be happy & be good to one another thats all you need to know.

By Stu the ox on Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 06:52 pm:

As no-one knows for sure,one way or the other,who am I to say any one here is right or wrong,a fool or genius.However my gut tells me we are building up to something major,and with every day that passes,we are accelerating towards whatever fate awaits us.23/12/2012 is my 40th birthday,so maybe thats it-life ends at 40 and all that! But seriously,whatever happens bear this in mind,you are either part of the problem or part of the solution.Surely every-one can think of something that could be done to improve the lot of us all,and while we only think it is not going to improve.Act,create,develop,do your best,and not for your own selfish end.Sure we are all individuals,but we are also bound to each other by our mother planet.If you sh*t in your neighbours garden the stench will reach you in the end!As for the bible,try reading Revelations.The horsemen seem to be revealing themselves,but until the day(whenever it may be) all we can do is to live at our best.Try to achieve our true potential-any leave petty squables behind us.It seems impossible when the playing field is so obviously tilted by those with the upper hand.And we may have to fight yet.But live with a true heart and an honest head,and when your time comes you will be ready

By Heather on Sunday, January 27, 2002 - 08:57 am:

Nostrodamus said in one of his prophecies that "In the city of YORK, there will be a great collapse, two twin brothers, torn apart by chaos, while the fortress fall, the great leader will succumb and the third big war will begin when the city is burning" He later goes on to say that behind the war is a man of pure evil in a blue turban. After the war that will last fifty years the world will be calm for 100 years*(Im not sure of this amount but I think it is 100) and the messiah will return and the world will be gone. The bible also says something about it that corresponds with Nostrodamus's prophecies. So instead of 2012 I think it will be somewhere around 2150.

By Brian on Sunday, January 27, 2002 - 12:39 pm:

if we are not all dead by world war III that is.

By Jason on Tuesday, January 29, 2002 - 07:37 pm:

Either way, death is certain for every man. To be translated into the afterlife (aka Heaven for those who don't repel the Bible) and receive the inheritance of the one true GOD, we must put on Christ, through Baptism, imitating his death burial and resurrection to walk in a new life. Study the way Jacob, the unfavored son inherited his father's blessing by "putting on Esau".

Then his father told him to come closer, to smell him and further determine if this is the son worthy of the blessing, similar to the way faithful Christians (those who follow Christ and are members of his body , aka Church of Christ) are a sweet savor to his Father, and when their deeds and spirit resemble Christ (who is a spirit) ONLY those will inherit the blessing.

It has nothing to do with FEAR unless the Biblically educated conscience, upon judgment, convicts its "owner" of rejecting God and his Son's exemplary path to salvation.

For centuries and millenia, man has erroneously thought he was able to "make" his own destiny. Rather presumptuous for such a feeble creature. Truth must be sought, it is not a product of temper, gut feeling, or attitude,

To investigate truth, contact a Church of Christ that communes exactly as the Scriptures teach (repeatedly)... I found them on Newtestamentchurch.org. That is where I found REAL ANSWERS to the ridiculous questions purported by man.... Onward and Upward.. Take the right path to a true and glorious future.

By Anonymous on Tuesday, February 5, 2002 - 10:28 pm:

I will face death head-on. I have no fear about it until I see it happen to someone else. I then begin to wonder what its like and wish I could see what they see, but I don't think that will happen until I experience it for myself.

I have only started reading about this subject of the world ending, but I believe that what happens is obviously not up to us. Things are going to happen and we must face our own fears and somehow learn to deal with them in our own ways.

I do not know where I will be or what I will be doing, but it will not change my opinion on anything. I am ready to see the end. My life has not been alive for too long, and I wish there was more to see and know in this life, but it seems as if there are no mysteries left to uncover other than scripts, predictions, and things that I will never understand.

By Gene on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 02:03 am:

They say the world is going to end 2012. I've heard it was forteold by the Mayan calender. I believe in 2012 you can expect an ice age or tumultuous events, south american highrise disasters, a result of earthquakes. Los Angeles will have a decease out break that will be eradicated. A Solar eclispe will result in two lunar objects and one will become destroyed.

By Stuart on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 11:14 am:


By GOTHCHICK on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 12:38 pm:

war is hell

By Brian on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 02:05 pm:

wow...we need big boots on in here for what that jason guy is feeding us...

By DR.L.S.W4th on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 05:32 am:

Hey all it just oocrured to me nas saw the 911 W.T.C attack I have read his thoughts for the future of man but when i read that city of york twin brothers collapsing the man of pure evil with a blue turban i clicked in my mind. This end of the world , secret society alien,paranormal,sci-fi,4-d ,pure and unpure(evil) thoughts,ideas & actions force my window of understanding to stay open. While i use my mind as a filter. We all know that no one mortal has all the answers. I took the S.B test ten years ago and got 200 well i was 11 then ,by 2002 I thought i have found the formula for going thru time (tesseract), find a cure for all illneses, desige warp enabled craft, tell sir stephen hawkings to get stuffed after he told me his secrets and the most important use 100% of my brain to see invisible information. well like most dreams not all of my thoughts have come to light.i do have a good job at G.E that pays me a six figure salary. Which from what i hear is good for a person my age i never felt my age when i was younger i felt something ancient inside. deja vu happens regularly ,I may not have a time machine or 100% brainpower but i know something is coming soon very soon . P.S IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFO I CAN USE TO HELP ME ON MY PATH OF TRUTH PLEASE EMAIL ME AT qion007@yahoo.com ALSO I STATED BEFORE I FEEL ALOT OF THINGS DEJA VU BUT I LEFT OUT SOME THINGS I SENSE EVIL DANGER GOOD THINGS TOO BUT I READ PEOPLE NOT ALL THE TIME CAN I DO THIS HOWEVER WHEN I FOCUS THEIR HISTORY OF LIFE AND SOME SCENES OF THEIR FUTURE. THIS MAY SOUND LIKE B.S BUT BELIVE I WAS BORN THIS WAY SAME AS MY FATHER AND HIS FATHER AND SO ON I HAVE A FEELING THESE GIFTS WE HAVE THAT GIVE US STATUS AND WEALTH WILL HAVE A PRICE AND SOMEDAY SOMETHING OR SOMEONE WILL COME LOOKING FOR ME ,I HAVE A SENSE LIKE WILD ANIMALS HAVE KEEN SENSES THAT WHILE I LIVE MY LIFE SOMEYHING WATCHES AND WAITS IAM SERIOUS AND FOR REAL .MY GRANDFATHER SAID NEVER FEAR ANYTHING LIVING OR DEAD CONTROL YOUR EMOTIONS ALWAYS SO THATS HOW I GREW UP I HAVE NOT CRIED IN SEVENTEEN YEARS SINCE MY FOUTH BIRTHDAY WHEN MY GRANDFATHER TOLD ME THAT BIT OF INFO .I READ ALOT BOOKS BUT I LEAN TOWARD MYTHOLOGY ,FOLKTALES ,CREEPY LEDGENDS &OLD TEXTS. WE ALWAYS WONDER WHEN THE END IS COMING. PEOPLE LIVE HONORABLE ,RESPECT NATURE,PAY RESPECT TO THE DEAD,BALANCE AND SEARCH FOR GOD. DONT DEVELOPE A MESSIAH COMPLEX. 2150.2012,2013,2004,3000 DATES I RESPECT THE MAYANS THEY HAD SOME GOOD PLANS ALSO SOME BARBARIC PLANS TOO, THEY VANISED .MY EMAIL IS QION007@YAHOO.COM LIVE! TIME DOES NOT GO BACK FOR ANYONE .(NOT YET BUT IAM ON TO SOMETHING) STAY ON TOP OF THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE .

By Anonymous on Sunday, March 3, 2002 - 10:42 pm:

I agree with C.S.Lewiss interpetation of Matt24:32-36. the generaton that sees Isreal become a nation will not die off before the end of the seven year Tribulation. Those born on May 14th 1948 should have a life expectancey of about 72years. That means by 2020 it should be all over. The seven year Tribulation, therefore, would haft to begin somewhere around or before 2013. I dont know the day or the hour but I Know the season. It is interesting the Myans calander ends on Dec 23 2012. Ill be wathing too.

By J. R. Burden on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 07:26 pm:

an entire planetary alignmet is supposed to happen on dec. 23, 2012. it is also about the same time that we're to exit the age of pieces and enter into the age of aquarius.

By Anonymous on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 07:50 pm:

A fire always burns it's before it smolders down to nothing. The environment in it's current state could possibley support us for perhaps fifty more years. The powers that be will milk this fragile planet for all it's worth and then some, when they are through the world will be nothing more than a waste land covered with millions of pitiful creatures clawing upon all that remains of our earth. I don't think for a moment that this will happen, The earth demands retribution and it will be answered. Make peace with what ever God you beleive, go out become one with Nature, because this planet is a living being and we have endangered its existence. The planet you depend on for survival is about to turn against you all.

"Man did not weave the web of life he is only a strand in it" Cheif Seatle

By Aaron Bleakley on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:31 am:

To me anagorical interpretation is a form of inaccurate rewriting. So if you took the Proficies in Revelations (King of the South and the king of the North)for what they are and at the same time taking in concideration the Myan belief of 2012 we have no choice but to believe that we are living in the time of the end.

By Sz on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 08:49 am:

Do you know what is gonna happen on April 4?
Is it gonna be an earth quake, and new concicious rising attitude.

I believe I'll be one of the gifted but what will we be gifted...

Setam channeled an earth quake for april 4th 3:14
or 3:6:8:for the time.

By Nechronius on Friday, March 29, 2002 - 09:09 pm:

"Setam channeled an earth quake for april 4th 3:14
or 3:6:8:for the time. "

Would that be Greenwich Mean Time or Perhaps Eastern Standard Time? By chance where will it occur?

By Bryan Headrick on Friday, April 5, 2002 - 08:59 am:

where was this earthquake supposed to occur, 'cos I don't remember hearing that any major earthquake occurred yesterday. So much for prophecies!
And what's with all this "we have no choice but to believe that we are living in the time of the end" ? Preachers have been saying this for 2millenia now, don't you think it's time to give it a rest? Jesus told his disciples that many of them would NOT taste death until he returned, well, where is he? Looks like the jokes on them, but if you still wanna wait, be my guest. Perhaps the world will end some day, but you can bet your life that it won't be any time that is expected. The only use for prophecies is to look back and say "hey, that happened" noone ever benefits by being prepared for something that was prophecied.
I'll be laughing at all of you naive, superstitious folks in about 10 years when the earth doesn't end

By Dawn B on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 08:29 pm:

I think that throughout history, there has been prophecies of apocalypse. It seems when there is alot of upheavel in the world (such as war, drought, earthquakes, etc.), the visions of apocalypse become more prevelent. It's not really up to us so my recommendation is to be the best person you can, and let things happen on their own time. We have no control anyway.

By Alein on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 12:24 pm:

I agree with you, Dawn. People Start wars just because they're mad and inousent people get killed. But earthquakes and drouts and floods'ect are just things that happen and we don't know when. We might be able to prevent wars. If we do get invelved in a war we probably have the more advanced techknolagy. E-mail me at alein@1111.org

By Healymonstergccinternet.net on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 10:58 pm:

the bible teaches that a thousand years is as a day unto the lord. god is outside of time while we are governed by it. so whats a thousand years, or ten....when its over...it's over. but when it's over which side of time ( ETERNITY) WILL we be standing on. good reason to live right and seek the creative master-mind of the universe, do'nt you think. just for thought shortly after being saved and studying daniel, the number 2012 came up and then i could'nt remember how i came up with that number....as it's not for us to know the hour anyway, we know it's always near....i'm resting in his assurance that whatever the disaster i will have a place with my heavenly father----julie h.

By Ken sharaf on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:50 pm:

i feel sorry for a lot of you who believe god will return. the gods recorded in the bible were beings from the planet marduk. they used genetic engineering and hybrid breeding (alien - early human = todays humans). large sections of the bible (old testament) are word for word copies of ancient sumarian and phonecian texts. the being known as jesus was a descendant of the royal line of david and solomon (bible old testament) he was indeed the son of a god (alien human hybrid) and was indeed the king of the israelites as a result of the royal godly alien bloodline from his father jesus had a twin brother the apostle known as thomas not only that but jesus was married and had children the descendents of jesus and his children still live on this planet today. what is known as the new testament in the bible is largely the result of the human known as saul of tarsus who later and today is commonly known as saint paul this fact is known to most theologians today. the majority of what is found in todays bible was determined at the council of nicaea which was organised by the vatican (holy roman empire). if you believe the bible is the literal word of god you must realize the mistake of giving up your abilities of logic and reason. on the subject of the mayans yes they believe the world will end in 2012 but a new world will begin when the old world ends there will be no apocalypse.

By Itstrueitsdamntrue on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 09:19 pm:

I Think That The World Would Not Be Destroyed But Our Technogly will start going backwards and be will end up like the ice age and robots and other things like apes will RULE the WORLD. NOT HUMANS BUT OTHER MACHINES AND ANIMALS, we will be cast out like what we have done to other animals we will become pets and slaves. aliens would never come to help us but destroy us because they would see no point in letting us live. The Experts Were Wrong So why Do u Think the Mayan's are right the will only be right for a while.

By Daniel shutts on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 02:27 pm:

i think the world is going to be fluded before any thing because the ice bergs are melting so.... if you cant swim you better learn. :)

By MR.PEABODY on Thursday, May 2, 2002 - 03:35 pm:


By Anonymous on Friday, May 3, 2002 - 09:26 pm:

Dear Mike E.,
Hey, I know it's kinda' late to add this, but . . . there's no such thing as a "red dwarf". Our sun will eventually "expand" into a RED GIANT. Our sun will then proceed to "burb" off it's outer atmosphere and become a small, WHITE DWARF. Our sun WILL NOT go nova. That right is reserved for the big blue stars (I like to call them "Big Blue"):). When these stars run out of their "nuclear fuel", they expand into a super red giant and then go nova. They can then either become a pulsar (neutron star) or a black hole.

P.S. No one knows the day of the end of the world. NO ONE. Only the Lord knows. We are living in the end times, however. The signs are happening today. It's right there in the Bible. Those who are in the Lord should not be afraid, we will be going home. Death has lost its sting, praise the Lord!
God bless.

By Anonymous on Sunday, May 5, 2002 - 09:47 pm:

look around people, the planet allignment is visible to all and the antichrist (the roman catholic church) is at full power. the world is changing and it will soon be different for all of us.

By Mrdump on Monday, May 6, 2002 - 02:41 am:

I'll be 50 years old and will have taken about 18,250 dumps!

By Anonymous on Monday, May 6, 2002 - 11:20 pm:

Listen up people....If the world ends in the year 2012 then so be it. If you were good little boys & girls,you have nothing to worry about,because then you will be with your maker.for those who haven't a clue who I am talking about it's GOD! There isn't a darn thing you can do about it, if the end is near. Anyways,so relax and be good and smile....live life to the fullest! try to have a nice life...........

By Student with obviously too much time on Thursday, May 9, 2002 - 06:36 pm:

In a way, the world ends so to speak for everyone at the point of death, regardless of whether that point is reached because of world catastrophies or natural causes. The difference being in the case of world catastrophies, that the world of their known life will not continue as it would ordinarily. I think a possible reason for people's preoccupation with this subject has nothing to do with their concern for the 'world' and 'what happens next for the world', but more to do with 'what happens next for me', that is, fear and anxiety about the afterlife, should it exist. What I am trying to say is, either way you are going to die eventually, maybe the issue of concern isn't about how you die, but what happens next?

(I am not going to make a prediction about the nature of an afterlife because it is still something I am trying to figure out for myself.)

One last thing. For people such as Mr Dump here, (and there are others too) whose only apparent significance to life is the number of times they take a dump by 2012, I realise being a smartass is fun (truly, I am not being sarcastic) but I hope that that is what the comment is about, and is not a reflection of the lack of depth in your life. So to everyone with a 'don't worry be happy' attitude, this page isn't just about the end of the world, its about people showing that they think about things on a bigger scale, not just about what they will wear today, or what crap they will buy from McDonalds. So thanks to all the people (regardless of your different opinions) who have responded thoughtfully on this page. You prove that there are still people out there that are in touch with a higher order thinking.

By Anonymous on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 04:40 pm:

I had just came back from Chichen-itza and had viewed the ruins. I was much impressed of how organized their culture was. The impression that I got from my guide was that the Mayas did not regard death the same way we do, they actually looked forward to it, it was another "station" in ones existence, another step. With such an objective and different view of death, how can we regard their end of the world the same way we would (death, destruction of the Earth)if at all I tend to think that the end of the World will most likely mean "the end of the World as we Know it", yes, that is an REM song but I think it explains it the best way I can.

By Anonymous on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 07:01 am:

Mary was inplanted with a baby by GOD "the gods the Anunnaki the Aliens".
She had the baby under the star of bethlehem, but as you know the star travelled across the desert to guide the 3 wise men, and stars dont move like that but unidentified flying objects do.
When the baby was growing into a man he realized he could preform miracels or super natural power passed on to him through his genes from the aliens our gods our creaters, and if you read the bible it also says

AND THE SONS OF GODS................


ps i cant spell

By John Q Public on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 03:05 am:

The final series episode of "The X-Files" has provided one answer. And so what if "It's just a tv show." Everything posted here is just conjecture,theory,hypothesis and opinion more or less.

By Michael Jones on Wednesday, June 5, 2002 - 01:28 pm:

The Myan calander ends at 2012 because the myan empire fell to the Europeans (Spain) before the calander was finished. That's it, that's all, nothing more to it!

By Rattqueen on Monday, June 10, 2002 - 03:23 am:

Ya know I could be wrong, although I am a psychic, but I get this world is going to be here for many more years. 2012 and beyond. That is what I am picking up and that there will be a cure for Aids within the next year, but I'm not Miss Cleo, so don't hold me to that. I'm a psychic yes, but I don't claim to know everything and yes I have been wrong before, but not too often.

By Anonymous on Saturday, July 6, 2002 - 07:36 am:

First and formost LOVE your God and Creator
2nd love your neighbor as you love yourself
Love each other as Jesus loves you

Like the seasons of the mother earth the Mayan
calender is circular/unending suggesting CHANGE
According to an astronomer named Robert Ghostbear
sometime in the next few (3+?) years, the star
and planet which lined up to form the very bright
star of bethlahem(2000 years ago) will realign
themselves-My guess being in the neighborhood of
2005 A.D.
FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD- There is supposed to be a
full solarsystem allignment(all 9 planents) in
early 2005 - I wonder what kind of effect that
would have on the magnetism of this already
unstable rock
Seven years later the Mayan calender turns over-
most revelations theologians like to believe in
seven years of tribulation before the return of

Global warming, a mile wide pond at the north pole due to ice-cap melting, the fall of the towers of Babylon, the usage by NASA of personal info chips implanted in the palms of its employees

Bob Dylan said it folks,"A hard rain's gonna fall"

By Anonymous on Sunday, July 7, 2002 - 08:54 pm:

Maybe, just maybe, the Mayan calendar maker died in 2012 and that's why the calander ended there!

By XToR on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:10 pm:

I belive that the myans predicted the end of the world on December 26, 2013. i didn't read all of your posts, so someone may have said that already.

By Aliza on Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 04:26 pm:

Perhaps this date is an estimation of an event where the power of individual choice is so great that our world is what we make of it. Maybe, in the astrological, metaphysical sense (if You beleive in that) the planets will allign so that they correspond with the chakras going from Saturn (feet) Mars (root) Venus (spleen) Mercury (intelectual plexus) Sun (solar plexus) earth (heart, perhaps the moon is the pink around the heart) Uranus (throat) Neptune (third eye) Pluto (crown) I think maybe that Jupiter is the hand chakras or perhaps it's a chakra inside the earth... May be...

By Armageddon on Friday, July 26, 2002 - 12:08 am:

2012, or 2019? Maybe they were a few years off, or, does the seven years of tribulation starts in 2012, the end of the Mayan calender, and end Feb 1, 2019, the date of the 1.2 mile wide astroid impact we have all heard about in the news? Nasa's site (http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov)is playing down the impact threat now, maybe to reduce panic? Maybe we should stop fighting over who's religion is "right" and start working together on saving our planet and mankind. Only last month, a .6 mile wide astroid missed us by only 74,000 miles and we knew nothing about it till it pass us by. Maybe the Mayan's were more aware of objects in space than we think!

By B1ihkg46 on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:23 pm:

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By Dominic95 on Thursday, August 1, 2002 - 06:13 pm:

i would like to know where i can buy a ouijaboard in hamilton ontario canada

By Kaye on Thursday, August 1, 2002 - 10:12 pm:

You can buy a ouija board in any department store where all toys are sold,in the games department..Do you have a toys R us store? You will find it there...Be careful with the Ouija board when you get it,I've had some weird things happen. I DO believe that some not to nice spirits can come through the board and cause a lot of harm..Be careful............Kaye

By Utvixxen on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 07:31 pm:

I think that you all have very interesting theories about the end of the world, religion and the extraterrestrial. However, I find that you all have very vivid imaginations and some twisted beliefs as well. You can quote the bible until you are blue in the face; however, it is now a beautiful book of fiction. The true meaning and message of the bible has certainly been lost in all the translations and the various "versions" of the bible. Science has proven that we are a product of evolution, and if you take the bible at it's current word, that God created Adam in His own image, then "God" would be something like an ameba.
Now, has it occurred to you that the Mayan who was producing said calander either got bored with the repetition and gave up on it, or died. Maybe he found other more interesting activities to engage in.
And as for the extraterrestrials coming here to earth to "study" mankind. If indeed they have all this advanced knowledge and technology, what would make anyone think that they would be interested in studying the idiots on this planet? If it were me, I would be looking for a planet with a greater abundance of intellegent life forms. Certianly not a planet where the inhabitants are set upon destroying said planet as well as each other. Or maybe the "aliens" are really here to take over our planet and enslave all of us, therefore they must study man to know of the strengths and weaknesses. (Just thought I'd throw you a bone!
As far as a theory on the year 2012 being the end of the earth, I think that it is all a bunch of hogwash, for lack of a non-vulgar word. People are trying to over-analyze the whole thing. If you read other calanders and works and proficies that are out there, you can place the ending date of the earth at almost any givin time and/or date.
All of this may be fact or fallacy. Who really knows. It is just my opinion. Enjoy.

By Echo on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 12:22 pm:

Mt.24;36"But of that day and hour no one knows, niether the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."

By Carla on Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 10:32 pm:

Does anyone remember May 5, 2000? There were books and "survival guides" and even a website regarding the idea that the world was going to end on that day and disaster would reign due to some wierd planetary alignment. Well, we are still here and the people who wrote those books about "May 5, 2000" have gotten rich by capitalizing on people's fears. That is not to say that I totally discount the "2012" theory though. But instead of wasting my time worrying about something that I cannot control, I instead am going to enjoy every day that I am given and do my part to make the world a pleasant place to be. Each day is a gift, and I choose to walk through life with appreciation and love instead of with fear and helplessness.
By the grace of God, there go I.

By Doesnt matter on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 08:23 am:

so the world ends in 2012 now? is this the last time you'll set a date?

By Pointless on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 12:58 pm:

Way i figure it the mayans just got bored with their calendar and decided that if their decendants really cared all that much they would continue it themselves. YOU PEOPLE ARE ALL FAR TO PARANOID. THE WORLD IS NOT GOING TO END!

By Evolution on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 10:13 am:

I believe everyone should read the Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield. Cristilizes how the world has been and will be. I remember hearing the world will end in 2013 Dec. 25. Thirteen is a holy number 6 wich is the sign of man and seven which is the sign of god, meaning we will live together as one. But not on this date, this date will signify that we will get rid of material things and start evolving as human beings and getting back to nature. The Celestine Prophecy was an ancient manuscript found in Peru in the early nities. It talks about 9 insights that each human being will start conciously grasping one than the other moving toward a conciouse spiritual culture on earth. It talks about the Mayans and says they are the ones who wrote the manuscript. It talks at the end of the book that God loves everyone. There was 13 dead sea scrolls and the thirteenth was looked apon as a fake becuase it talks about Jesus Christ saying that is within us all and it CLARIFIES it in the Celesting Prophecy. READ IT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET AHEAD ON THINGS NO NEED TO KEEP TRYING TO STEAL OTHER PEOPLES ENERGY WHEN ITS ALL HERE IN THE UNIVERSE FOR US TO RECIEVE TO HELP US FEEL ENERGIZED. AND WE CAN LEARN TO STOP ACTING ON CONTROL DRAMS PASIVE-AGRESSIVEM, ALOOF, POOR ME, INTIMIDATORS, INTERIGATORS. We all learned this in child hood to try to get energy. And it is time to stop and START EVOLVING!!!!!
Tricia Young

By Evolution on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 10:24 am:

I messed up Jesus Christ says that GOD is within us all

By JesseDeane on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:21 pm:

From researching the Mayans, listening to Art Bell, and being that I am involved in American Indian proficies (I am Iroqouis), Edgar Cayce, Nostrodamus, Hopis/Sedona, Star people/UFO's and Hinduism.

From what I have gathered we will see a new age coming the Hindus say the "Age of Kali". Nostrodaumus talks about the destruction and then a new beginning. Edgar Cayce speaks of "Earth Changes concerning destruction.

From what the Grays/Aliens have stated to an abductee "it will be a reconstruction not a total destruction". If we look at the earths history we can see that there have been other reconstructions, like the Noah story of the great floods, and the ice age.

It is inevitable as we have dug up other civilizations we will one day be discovered also.

Some of us are here now because we volunteered in our "soul groups" in the spirit realm to go on a mission. Some of us will survive mother earth will spit out all negative, destructive entities that are already feeding the "ego".

A Guru/spiritual master once said "all ills of the world are caused by the ego, it is when we let go of the ego that we learn to be spiritual".

What we can do is meditate as individuals and stop giving power to the media, corporations, and evil politcians and organized religions.
Stop buying processed food instead buy pure vegetarian foods, and/or grow your own. Read uplifting books like "Celestine Proficies" or Autobiography of a Yogi.

Start seeing the spirit in everyone and everything listen to your heart and meditate. Become one with the earth....just my thoughts thank you for taking the time to read my post!
Blessed be,
Jesse Deane
Blessed be.

By Taerg si halla on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 09:58 pm:

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By Terryt on Monday, September 2, 2002 - 05:47 am:

For all of you that know when its all going to end, by the way the date always seem to be different!! Someone has to be wrong!
If i had 100 dollars from everyone that was convined what day the world was over i would be able to make the most of my life now and not worry about the end.. Good luck to those who seek the end ..dont be in such a hurry to go.
I'll celebrate living life for you too..

By Da4joey on Friday, September 6, 2002 - 10:27 pm:

I would like to reply to "Anonymous" on Sunday, July 9,2000- 2:26am. Just my opinion mind you, but your goin straight to hell. If you had any brain at all between your ears and really read the Bible through. You would know down deep in your heart that no one MAN could have written the Bible. Only God himself. Our Father in Heaven. It's simple minded fools like you that are doomed. Open your mind and your heart to the power of Jesus Christ. Only then will you know peace. I'll be prayin for ya Buddy...

By Ezriel on Sunday, September 8, 2002 - 03:06 pm:

This is my first time to this web site, I just recently have learned about the Mayan Prophecy on Four Ahau Three Kankin. I think thats interesting on many levels. I dont think the world will come to an end on that date. Its possible that after that date they were not able to forsee any future events due to the precession, they had incredible mathematical capabilities its possible they only went to far. I guess we will find out on that date. We will know if the black road opens or not.

As for Da4joey responding to anonymous, heh his mind is open its yours that isnt! When you lock yourselft into one way of thinking your not allowing yourself to exlplore other possibilties.

By Cindy on Monday, September 9, 2002 - 05:34 pm:

Thik about this humans.....If you were passing through our galaxy would you want to get off here? Earth is in constant turmoil and we are headed for a demise we are creating.

By Varuza on Monday, September 9, 2002 - 06:12 pm:

It is strange how numbers can bring such significance and importance to ones lives, we seem to choose fate by number as In lotteries do. I sit back and watch humans evolve or at least try to, they thrive on demise,destruction and look to something to control their daily functions, as if they cannot motivate on their own. Using such knowledge but only to pervert the truth, twisting it to the likings of those who swallow doom in small dosages to survive. Using religion as a tool of destruction and forcing those to adhere to their words instead of obtaining rightcheous teachings at their own learning capacities, each human takes in information at different pace, in opinion or form, which makes you special in your own ways. Ideas and myths,urban legends and fokelore should be seperated from original facts, 2012 is a NUMBER...13 is a number...7 is a number...civilizatiion bases living on mathmatical terms, algebra, calculs, trigometry.etc.. I am more concerened WHAT you are doing to earth, corporations dumping toxins unto the land, raping, pillliage, parents kiling children, teens murdering, society over-medicating their children insted of parenting and heading issues onslaught. We are creating our OWN fears,horrors, demise as units. Food shortages,homeless people, babies abused. Why not take on meaningful issues instead of wishing for some change on 2012 but start turning around your errors now? If and I say if, I was an extra-terrestrial do you think I would want to inhababit earth, look at your impending doom you patiently await.....I would dare not be stuck with beings who cannot function on a reality basis. You destroy your land and surroundings, and when all is finished you look to the future of some NUMERICAL change to embrace and direct you towards something you could not even comprehend in flesh. Please stop to think maybe your corrupt government pulls the wool over your eyes and they await numerical doom to deplenish human form to ensure their survival? You create your fears and shove them to others to share . I cannot help but sadly wish those who brought all this global destruction on to enlighten themselves, I implore you all to look inside at what you have let your society program into your mind and learn to rely on infinate being to lead you honestly towards higher attainment for then when the heavens open arms you will, then, be embraced. For you are worthy. Just an opinion, its does not direct at those who are caring and open minded, please do not take offense. If you wish 2012 to bring you new beginings work for it now you have a head start.

By Varuza on Monday, September 9, 2002 - 06:15 pm:

It is strange how numbers can bring such significance and importance to ones lives, we seem to choose fate by number as In lotteries do. I sit back and watch humans evolve or at least try to, they thrive on demise,destruction and look to something to control their daily functions, as if they cannot motivate on their own. Using such knowledge but only to pervert the truth, twisting it to the likings of those who swallow doom in small dosages to survive. Using religion as a tool of destruction and forcing those to adhere to their words instead of obtaining rightcheous teachings at their own learning capacities, each human takes in information at different pace, in opinion or form, which makes you special in your own ways. Ideas and myths,urban legends and fokelore should be seperated from original facts, 2012 is a NUMBER...13 is a number...7 is a number...civilizatiion bases living on mathmatical terms, algebra, calculs, trigometry.etc.. I am more concerened WHAT you are doing to earth, corporations dumping toxins unto the land, raping, pillliage, parents kiling children, teens murdering, society over-medicating their children insted of parenting and heading issues onslaught. We are creating our OWN fears,horrors, demise as units. Food shortages,homeless people, babies abused. Why not take on meaningful issues instead of wishing for some change on 2012 but start turning around your errors now? If and I say if, I was an extra-terrestrial do you think I would want to inhababit earth, look at your impending doom you patiently await.....I would dare not be stuck with beings who cannot function on a reality basis. You destroy your land and surroundings, and when all is finished you look to the future of some NUMERICAL change to embrace and direct you towards something you could not even comprehend in flesh. Please stop to think maybe your corrupt government pulls the wool over your eyes and they await numerical doom to deplenish human form to ensure their survival? You create your fears and shove them to others to share . I cannot help but sadly wish those who brought all this global destruction on to enlighten themselves, I implore you all to look inside at what you have let your society program into your mind and learn to rely on infinate being to lead you honestly towards higher attainment for then when the heavens open arms you will, then, be embraced. For you are worthy. Just an opinion, its does not direct at those who are caring and open minded, please do not take offense. If you wish 2012 to bring you new beginings work for it now you have a head start.

By Citichic on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:41 pm:

I think that jefferyallenmorse hit the nail on the head. I feel we can control our destiny and the destruction of the earth is only one futuristic possibility. If we listen to the messages givin to us through the bible, crop circles and spirits we will learn that there is something we need to do. Everytime you start to throw that ciggarette butt out the window, everytime you pass up a chance to recycle, or not to give to the National Wildlife Foundation, you are leading us toward a possible future which will bring on our distruction. What I don't understand is all these Christians who accept this destiny and are not willing to change things. Was'nt Jesus all about loving each other. So, lets respect each other (all races) and respect our planet. The date of the end of the world seems to be pushed foward over and over. What happened to the world ending in the year 2000? And don't forget about the big computer glitch that ordinary people were so frantic about. Take heed. We can control our destiny.

By BeardedDog on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:44 pm:

Tribulation, thousands of years of peace. Tribulation, thousands of years of peace. Hmmmmm....

By Varuza on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 11:41 am:

Thank you for realizing even with biblical prophecies awaiting one would think while you are still here on earth you would be more GLOBALLY activated, until the heavens do part why cannot people still love, volunteer, pick up trash, wipe tears away from an abused adult or childs eyes.Help feed hungry. Since some of those that claim religion so staunchly just sit to await there transportation out of here, why not until the so called bitter end, do help to the end, Until my last breath or spiritual ascending I will continue to fight for freedom, childrens rights, americas rights and global awakening, for I am a true christian who does not hide behind religion but steps up to my responsibilities knowing supernatural activity still occurs 24-7-365 and I still have to eat sleep work and give where needed. For the I know what I have done in my earth life that opened my eyes and mind......

By Jason on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 11:01 pm:

I just found out about this in an Incubus song where a girl screams out a warning for three days at 10:24 A.M. and on the fourth day everyone dissapears.The lyrics say something like Don't ever let your life pass you by.

By X on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 07:19 pm:

so much talk and worry
live your life now
dont fear tomorro
and stop misplelling Mayan


By Sonllos on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:48 pm:

2012 is a curious number. Remember, Nibiru is supposed to be near out orbit sometime between May of 2003 and 2013. Theoretically, the geophysical pole shift caused by that will cause a 5 minute continental drift of 90 degrees.

By Sonllos on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:51 pm:

Oh, and BTW. The Age of Aquarius already began. Annuit Mortis Novus Ordo Seclorum; Annuit Coeptis Novus Ordo Purei.

Learn to swim.

By Kit smith on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:51 pm:

I think that many things are interesting in theory, but seriously, I was taught in a public school that the bible is 50% PROVEN fact, the rest is faith?

By Kit smith on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:53 pm:

I think a lot of this stuff is interesting in theory, but seriously, I was taught in a public school that the bible is 50% PROVEN fact, the rest is faith.

By Al Gray on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 02:41 am:

Like everyone else, I have no idea what will happen. Duh, just be patient. ::)

By John williams on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 10:54 pm:

i am an alien from the past and my planet is going to invade earth and kill you all in 2006 be ready

By IAM on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 01:31 pm:

I am revolted at the simplistic nature of man

By IAM on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 01:36 pm:

1) FACT (oh and if anyone should like to dispute these, you are my guest.....but please dont make a hawASS out of yourselves)...The world is going to end!

By IAM on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 03:55 pm:

2) FACT.....it has ended before,(other cultures have passed away, other epochs are no more)

3) FACT.....we have been left with a callender that ends in 2012, (dec.23) given by a culture that believed the extension of it beyond that date was unnecessary and who were meticulous in its creation

4) (curious....is anyone able to refute these so far..?...didn't think so!) FACT....WE CAN NOT STOP THE FUTURE FROM COMMING TO OUR PRESENT! It will be left to me to make any changes in order to avert mans dimise....but i'll have to activate the pyramid machines!

5) FACT.....Man perverts the truth! (I think I'll leave all monuments,mysteries and messages to a further culture. One that might be able to use them!)

By IAM on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 04:13 pm:

don't uncover the mystery and message of the
put parking lots over 10,500 year old sight-
ing posts and let children play with stone-
carve a few giant figures out of stone....
it is in the nature of people to do this
whats the point....
I am sorry that you must go this way but you have been stubron and you have let bufons lead you. I do not see any other way!!!

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2012 DEC. 23 OR 26

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By Friend on Friday, November 8, 2002 - 04:08 am:

Will the world end in the year 2012? I know it is not true. For the Jesus said that he will rapture his church before the rise of the anti-christ. I belive that very soon in one cataclismic moment millions vanished all over the Earth. Perhaps the year 2012 is the year when the beast will take possesion. Chaos will ensume the earth. Everyone will wonder why and how millions could disapear without a trace. Few will find out the truth that Jesus has raptured his church. However not all will be lost for thoes who are left behind. After the seven year tribulation predicted in revalation, the Glorious appearing of Christ will come to save his servents. It is said after that event, Jesus will throw the beast into the abys for 1000 years. So no the world will not end in the year 2012. And if you are not a brother in Christ, I dare you to look at the New Testement and read the profices that give warning of christ return. REPENT your sins now, time is short. {Have delight in your life that Jesus is your lord and savior, and is standing at your door}

By ZNET on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 04:41 pm:


By Hawass on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 05:17 pm:

My panasonic VCR ends at 2012 too . Spooky

By Kyle Adamson on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 08:41 am:

I will write what i have to say later, i do not have enough time to explain my theorys about this matter right now, but i shall return. Im very happy to find this web-site. I hope some of you will listen to me.

By ARGH on Tuesday, November 26, 2002 - 10:33 pm:

what the hell is wrong with all you people!??! i come on the net to do a history project and i find nothing but a bunch of freaks talking about the end of the world! have you nothing to live for? some of you must have famillies or pets to live for COME ON!

By Sahra on Friday, November 29, 2002 - 07:18 pm:

Wow. It is amazing that so many people can get sucked into the belief that the world will end promptly at a certain point. The world should have ended at the beginning of the century, but... CHECK IT OUT!!! We're still ALIVE! fancy that!! in 1213 you all will be laughing sheepishly at yourselves. I would be willing to bet on it.

By Evolutions_child on Tuesday, December 3, 2002 - 05:00 pm:

Here we are, waisting our lives trying to tell the future when there is no possible way. Humans themself will eventually cease to exist thanks to ourselves if we keep on believing "the majority" and their theorys. People are too influenced by their "image" and will do dumb things in large numbers. Just because the majority of people think something, you believe it? But are the majority of people wise? or even wise as a majority? I think not. I think it would be best just to live life as it comes and not waiste our time on controversal issues based on an ancient civilizations calendar. What happens in space is not 100% predictable. For all we know one of the planets just might explode one day, but im not sitting here in fear of that moment. Fear is one of the many things that effects our decision making. I like to be perfectly aware of the choices i make throughout my life and not have them altered for my unnecessary fear of the future, because when people fear, they are momentarily halted as if they ran into a dead end. Its just a waiste of time to me. Maybe its just that i dont fear death that im not afraid of the future. The only way we will find out is to wait and let that theory prove itself when the time comes. Until then, why try to prove that you are "smarter" and "wiser" than everyone else by trying to predict the future? That contridicts the purpose since the future can not be told. Now that i have become a statistic, i wish you debating people good luck and a good time while posting. Im not much of the debating type anyways. Even if i was, who would believe me, a mere 13 year old boy?

By Anonymous on Friday, December 6, 2002 - 12:49 am:

The war on terroism has begun, could this be the start of he end of the world? Think about that!

By Josh brotman on Sunday, December 8, 2002 - 02:10 pm:

the myans had a wonderful calender which predicted fairly accurate events. While every calender does and should end, it is still somthing that my mind enjoys to ponder. perhaps the myans knew there would be a catostrophic event so they ended it there. however, the world as we know it, just does not "end"

in my mind, the most feesable event to bring catastrophy would be the fall our america, or other technological countries. The event of a paleomagnetic reversal is on the verge of a few thousand years. such an event would allow powerful electromagnetic forces, from a solor flare, to enter our atmosphere. These forces may knock out nearly every electronic device.

so while we may not be able to go online, watch tv, or talk on the phone, our banking systems will be wreaked havok on. that in itself would be enough to bring abundant anrachy into our world. unless, of course, the electromagnetic radiation kills us.

By Josh brotman on Sunday, December 8, 2002 - 02:18 pm:

^whoops i misspelled mayan :-(

By Josh brotman on Sunday, December 8, 2002 - 02:22 pm:

oh ya, and those who think you need to impress an invisible superhero who lives in outerspace in order to maintain a status that allows them to determine how you will spend your life after you live your life, then you my friends, have been brainwashed and mind fucked!

By Anonymous on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 04:04 pm:

verse 14. Tao de Ching
When you look it is not there
Listen an you cannot here it
It seems to be beyond your reach
Because you are so near it

This single source of everything
Appears to be an empty image
Though it cannot be understood
You can see its naked visage

Follow it to nothingness
Approach it where you have no face
From nowhere to infinity
This vacant image leavs no trace

From never to eternity
This naked face is what you are
An empty, vacant, open door
Forevermore ajar

"In the long run It will not matter what you belive or think is true. You see, becuase it is what it is and words are just words. Sure you can concieve and believe, analize and talk and give your piece of mind, there is nothing wrong with that, its fun. But my point is that things just are. There is really no need to try to figure them out. You could use words and writing to lable and analize the universe and consciouness for an eternity. You would find no limits to the facts you find. You would find no limits to the words you could use to describe one object or fact! You would find no limits to the limits! (Weird, huh?) No matter what you concieve, whatever happens will happen. And it will happen with perfecton. The natral world does not make mistakes for mistakes are something imagined by man not the natral world. IT allready WAS before YOU came around to say and think what it IS."


By Apocalyps_soon on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 11:18 am:

According to some theories, our planet has a "reset button" wich is pushed every 13000 years. This "reset button" ,as I call it, is in fact a geologic phenomenon that cause an pole exchange or at least a massive displacement of the techtonics "ilsands" who float on a big mass of fluid lava . One of the possible cause of this cataclysm is the gravitationnal influence of the mass of the artic ice accumulation on the South Pole continent . At this moment, the weight of the ice is aproximatively 19 000 000 000 000 000 tons . It's so heavy that the continent is collapsing under the ice weight !
We have discovered that the pole was once in Africa, in India and even in the Hudson Bay in Canada ( the last ice age never occured, the poles were simply elsewhere ) . The fact is that the Mayan knows that .
Why ?
It's an heritage of an older civilisation maybe as advance as we are but having a different kind of technology . It is said in nearly all ancient civilisation ( Egyptians, Mayans, Indians, Mesopotamians, Hebrew ( in the Bible )) of our world that a great flood once destroyed humanity .

The Mayans were great astronomers, they even knew that the star name Sirius was a double star system where the smallest star has a 50 years orbit aroud the bigger ( we discovered this information with our modern telescope and advanced astrophysic law studies )
They also predictded the planet alignement of May 5 2000 .

So, it is realy important that we look in the future, I mean the year 2012, for answers . As the end of the fifth sun and the last for the Mayans, they predicted something worst thant what have put an end to our last "ice age", nearly 13000 years ago...

By Judoman60 on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 08:01 pm:

I would like too contact other people, That have had an abduction encounter. I've been dealing with all of this and need to chat with someone. I know someone is dealing , with the same thing I do! Thanks!... judoman60

By Spike on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 09:54 pm:

I happen to know what will happen on jan. 1'st 2012.

By John Davenport on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 03:30 pm:

I just wonder what will be happening. It's hard to say....

By Cbbx on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 06:55 am:

I don't actually think it's going to end in 2012 no, it'll just end as we know it. This year will see some kind of event that will change how we ALLbelieve. It will give us truth to age old questions that man simply cannot answer yet. It will be the beginning of a new age, maybe a Messiah I simply don't know.. I do think it'll have a lot to do with aliens making contact again tho'. The calendar ended because they knew that 2012 would be the start of a new calendar, their own calendar was created using knowledge from those that will return again.

By JanusDragon on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 03:58 pm:

Perhaps I am young and idealistic. Perhaps I am immature and naive, but in the midst of discussing a promising thread, it has appeared to me to have been reduced to firing accusations, whether in a overt or subtle context. I'm an admitted Christian, but I feel great respect and reverence not only for Jesus Christ, but Buddah, Mother Theresa, Muhammed(I apoplogize for misspelling), Princess Di, Martin Luther, Confucious, the Egyptains, the Mayans, the Druids, and countless others in the past and present. What I am failing to understand is that shouldn't we keep and open mind to opinion? While it's fine to disagree and express your own views, isn't it too much to dubunk others because their beliefs may be drastically different? Isn't it the basic core of our being, to love and be loved,to find inner peace and harmony,and most importantly, to respect all? Isn't that what all religions and philosophies, whether great,small,etc. promote? So I suppose what this long-winded speech is getting at is-Can't we all just,get along?

On a final note,I apologize for quite possibly over stepping boundaries as a random smuck that happened to pass by.

Also,to stay relatively on topic- I'm not worried about the end of the world,live a good life,live it to the fullest, and it'll all work out in the end. :)

-Peace & Love :)

By Jim Farley on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 10:25 am:

The topic is what is your theroy on 2012? I just read the whole board this morning and most people are talking about religon and getting along. What I have decipherd from the myan calender of zolken or what ever you want to call it is; The olmecs created the "mayan calender" they started counting 26,000 years ago some 24,000 years before their culture exsited. They counted and measured time using the moon. 13 moon cycles in solar year. 13 28 day months. that left one day to make a perfect year sort of. So they had a day out of time as they called it to make a perfect solar year. The zolken was another method of counting. A zolken is 20 13 day weeks. 5 zolkens equal 3 years. That big sun dial thing that is in mexico city is a time dialer that dials up time from the zolken. notice their are 20 symbols around the edge of the thing. you can use this time dialer to dial up any day going back 26,000 years. It just so happens that the last click of the time dailer, the last day is dec 23. 2012. Does this mean the end of the world or just that the time dialer only has so many symbols and days in can dial up. I dont know you tell me

By Fiendish on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 11:55 am:

I just think that all you Americans should lower your heads in shame for you have elected a man who will set in motion the chain of events that will lead to our utter downfall in 2012. Ole' Georgie Boy and his little scrapper Georgie Jr. are about to ignite the flames of war culminating in our destruction which shall be compleate in 2012. Shame on you indeed.

By Uro on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 12:09 am:

you can eat brown mushy stuff and live with the after taste fienish. Should we all just sit back and let terrorists take over? your one of the ones that need to be protected...or are you a sympathiser? which side are you on? Tough times have allways been apart of the human existance...perserverance will see the strong and rightious through. Shame on you for thinking your better than the people of the greatest country on the planet. Time will tell....enjoy the after taste.

By Uro on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 12:12 am:

you can eat brown mushy stuff and live with the after taste fiendish. Should we all just sit back and let terrorists take over? your one of the ones that need to be protected...or are you a sympathiser? which side are you on? Tough times have allways been apart of the human existance...perserverance will see the strong and rightious through. Shame on you for thinking your better than the people of the greatest country on the planet. Time will tell....enjoy the after taste.

By WARLOCK on Saturday, February 1, 2003 - 12:42 am:

babbla dabbla

"i came back to earth with a great rock and roll band"

By Sdfsdf on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 01:08 pm:

if u fear this, help nasa or someting..if u dont then stay at home while we work

By WARLOCK on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:58 pm:

black soul eyes evolution...you must do your part to...human."tormentor".bonded in flesh.soul.soul.soul.

"is it time to come clean wash away everything?"

By Gflight on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 11:57 pm:

I'm sure everyone wants to know what the mayans were thinking when they made the calender end in 2012, and there are several possibe responses:

"I liked the number. 2012, nice ring dont you think?"

"why the hell not? i'll be dead by then, its someone elses problem"

"we just developed an entire calender! cut us some slack already."

"we just really wanted to see what people would put on mssg boards, ya'know? really throw them off"

"what's the X-files?"

"alright, pick a number between 1 and 3000"

"we ran out of room to write on"

"it seemed like a good idea at the time"

By Maria on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 10:14 am:

I do not beleive the end of the world will be 2012, but I do feel that the world as we know it will be differant and the plyth of the earth will be demolished and peace will cover the planet and man and women kind will start the era of rapture intended for all living things.

By Aislin on Sunday, March 2, 2003 - 01:28 pm:

guys, c'mon!!

The world is not gonna end.
Everybody keeps predicting this kind of stuff and never happens.
There are so many predictions about the end, even Isaac Newton predicted one in 2060.

By the way I think that they just stopped calculating the calender because they had better things to do.

By Vancouverparanormal on Monday, March 3, 2003 - 05:17 am:

The mayans were destroyed as a race of people by the spanish etc....perhaps-it is simply that they were murdered off before they had a chance to finish the calendar...

The most mysterious thing about the whole issue being the greed and the desire one people had for ending the lives of another people...
Re: UFO-someone said it was crazy...It's not...it's actually a lot crazier to not believe in UFO...mathematics support life out there.

By Angels all around on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 07:18 pm:

I had some doubtful thoughts about UFO's until three years ago when I saw 6 hovering for a few seconds and in a split second disappearing.I now am a believer in them and have began a search for others who have seen them and may have experienced some strange thoughts and feelings since. I have a feeling that we as a human race are to work toward a total peace with one another and that soon we will see for ourselves that we are not alone and that our ancient ansestors were indeed that of a celestial nature. The possibility that we are a hybred of alien and human from long ago has never been so fesible to me as it is now.Who knows, but it makes sense to me that our God could be from another planet. The book "Chariots of the Gds" had me thinking years ago that it was a possibility, but since seeing the UFO's for myself it has now been cemented in my mind that it is true. I feel I will keep an open mind and heart to the second coming of Christ as we understand it. The bible should be a tool for us to use to achieve the teachings of Christ and to teach each other what LOve is. I feel much better stumbling onto this sight, as I do not feel so alone in my belief anymore. I truly believe that the time is near and we are about to experience the most phenomenal thing we could ever imagine.The biggest message I have recieved is to prepare my body,mind and soul for the second coming and to LOve and be an example to others of that LOve.I have already been given the gift of abstinance of my smoking habit .I call it a gift because it has never been easier and I haven't had to use anything to help except faith.I pray for enlightenment for us all.

By Kiri kami on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 01:32 pm:

The MAya are right deth will be upon us all in the Maya month 'Kimi' and in are month december 21,2012. may the Maya god of Creation 'Hunah Ku'
be with us at that time being until then let's keep whaching the sky's for ansors.

I believe the Maya!

By Chac on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 01:38 pm:

I hate peanutbuter???????????????????????

By Toby on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 12:33 pm:

The world was supposed to end in 2000.it didn't.then,it was supposed to end in 2001 because of the fact that there was no year zero.it's 2003 now and i do believe that we're still here.well...I am @ least.anywho,some other people predict that the world will go bye-bye in 2085.now,i'm not saying that it CAN'T or WON'T happen,it's just that everyone else has been wrong so far.the End could be tomorrow for all we know!!this is probably just one wasy that the cosmic joker gets his/he/it's know laughs.(you know it's there.you've all heard it laugh.)

By KNOBBLERS GOB on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 12:40 am:


By Fitz. on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 02:47 pm:


By Binibinx on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 10:59 am:

i agree totally the world will end when shall cease to know that what we want or know how to survive on what the resources that we have

By 50 cent on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 11:02 am:

and i also believe that the world will end for ja rule if he stops putting out albums cuz that is the only way he makes money

By Rapchick on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 11:06 am:

the new song from 50 cent eminem and busta rymes against ja rule is that one of the greatest songs of all time which has rymes like pac was here he wouldnt run with ja

By Julie october on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 07:14 am:

many things which have been mentioned in the Bible or other knowledgable books give the same message. The world will change as we know it and we should all look at our selves and the way in which we live. And yes they all mention some other type of life form. It is up to the person to decide for themselves just how far they take these readings

By Maxpayne on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 02:18 pm:

do not take flu shots because the will control your mind as said in the bible

By James L Chase on Sunday, May 18, 2003 - 07:43 pm:

I just got back from the land of the Maya where a Mayan both cleaned my room and another was my guide to the Mayan Ruins of the Yucatan Peninsula. The Mayan Calendar ends in 2012 because the creator of the calendar decided to end it there. That is the simple truth. Kind of like the Sports Illustrated swim suit calender running out at the end of the year. I find people that think it means anything else to be among the stupid elites that think themselves wise and superior but are only mental midgets on the level of all who smoke their lunch. Who in there right mind would put so much into a bunch of jungle monkeys that did no more than any aboriginals of the time than to pile rocks up aligned to simple solar observations and spent much of the rest of their free time sacrificing their children to demons. Those that fail to believe the truth, the simple truth of the Bible and Jesus are comdemned to belive any kind of foolishness. Thinking themselves wise they became fools. Silly Rabbit!

By Paraseek Webmaster (Admin) on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 11:22 am:

The Mayan race died out and so almost all of their knowledge. Where does this "source" get his knowledge. Before you call others fools consider that who you talked to is the biggest fool of all. Because someone likes in the area where there Mayan's did doesn't make them an authority on anything.

That is like saying people who live in Egypy now know the secrets of Giza.


By Cemetary on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 09:58 pm:

i think it is possible, but it is also maybe not possible because know one knows the day but God the Father, so it could if that is his day but it want happen until he says so!!!!!!!!!

By Orion on Tuesday, June 3, 2003 - 08:12 am:

Myan = Pile rocks up aligned to simple solar obervations? What a fool. These simple solar calculations have finally been deciphered by powerful computers and have been proven. No human mind now could calculate these star predictions. These people knew something. Also if you read many consipiracy web sites you will find that no matter how kooky the conspiracy is, you will find a thread of truth that runs thru them all. The Myan prophecies are very much in line with Ancient Chineese and Christian prophecies. I believe that 2012 is just the end of recorded history. The Tribulation period described in Revelation will begin around that date. This is the time when people stop worrying about recorded history and start paniking about their own salvation. Christ and God may be aliens, they may be Myan GOD's or even returning humans come back to check on a forgotten human colony. We will not know untill the end. The myan prophecey talks of a Purifier comimg in the end. Sounds a lot like Christ to me.

By Janelle foote on Wednesday, June 4, 2003 - 10:43 am:

elvis is not coming and if he does he'll be someone else g\he'll live another body' life andyou won't know who he is and if you tell him you know him and that he's the Elvis that once was in ourpresence he'll go crazy! he is not jesus, could he heal people he is now dead and gone until we meet again in heaven or -well you know. as in my poem I wrote. "day or night I shall await my heavenly father for he is my creator, i shall employ to his every need, until we meet again I shall live in peace until the day comes that i may live in the castle on the clouds."

By Luv angel on Wednesday, June 4, 2003 - 10:52 am:

come home all who we have lost! our lllives our empty without you, our hearts are full of sorrow and our Eye full of tears. come all who we have lost into our homes whole again.

By Dark angel janelle foote on Wednesday, June 4, 2003 - 10:58 am:

the world will go on and we start new lives with luv in our hearts hoping for the return of the angel named Jesus. he will fill our world with luv again and then the day will come when he will be crucifide,by a man who is frightenedd by this angel and then the world will since our last chance has been taken andd we who are good will go on in heaven. ******************

By Cassandra on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 08:11 pm:

The Mayan's live some odd THOUSAND years ago. They werent excatly the smartest people. I think that they just didn't think the world would be around for this long. That or they figured we would do what we were supposed to do, add on to the calendar when the time came. And that time apparently came a long time ago, because the world is now freaking out that were all going to die in 8 years.

By Clair on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 09:53 pm:

It's pretty likely the Mayans weren't using the same time system we were, right? Also, their months weren't the same, were they? And whoever said that a calendar had to end at the end of the world? The universe has been around so much longer than humans and humans are such expendable creatures in the scheme of things that we really have no bearing in the end of time. If an ant told you that the earth would be destroyed in two days, would you believe it? So why should we believe ourselves when space is infinite and we are only a few feet tall?

By Joe dick on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 01:56 am:

does modern science not believe there to be a black holee at the center of the galaxy? Would this not cause a collapse of the galaxy when the sun rises into it? Yes father Sun shall enter into the mother black hole vagina, we shall, with imagination create the birth of the next world, and begin a new life

By Jmactavis on Tuesday, July 1, 2003 - 08:05 pm:

hello pigs in the sky. u suk

By Blue on Monday, July 7, 2003 - 10:31 pm:

there comes a time when we all have to come and go my time comes for me to have some fun, get ready for some real action, not fooling around with life

By GodSon on Tuesday, July 8, 2003 - 06:28 pm:

Opinions are like A**holes, everyone has them and they all stink. Even mine! Just be kind to your fellow-person and see the beauty in everyone and everything and "KNOW" that all we really have is "NOW".

By Unkledak on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 02:47 am:

Ah, it's wonderful to hear from all you stereotypical morons. Enough of this SHIT already!

By Carla on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 01:49 am:

The world will NOT end in 2012. The only thing that will end is "TIME" as we know it. We will discover Time Travel in 2012 and after that, time will be obsolete.

By Oaioiaaooa on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 11:03 pm:


By Nate500 on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 12:00 pm:

Republicans will blow earth out of the sky long before 2012. So don't worry too much about the myan predictons.

By Bret on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 12:14 am:

these things just pop into my head. the earth was lent to us by a supreme being...aliens. we have not cared for it and the year 2000 was the beggining of the end. we still have time to fix it up.2012 will be judgement day.technology will overtake us, and we will fall because of it.our whole universe could be a strand of hair on cattepilliar...you just never kow

By Ismet on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 10:21 pm:

What I think its gonna happen dont matter maybe nothing will we have to wait and see maybe we'll make AI and they kill us or maybe its gonna be armagedon or the mayas were playing a prank on us and its gonna be a normal year or we are gonna have WW III (nucliar war) and maybe we could discover time tavel because of the planet alligment and the date will not matter anymore I dont know Iam just some stupid 16 year old and was bored but we have to wait and see. ^_^

By The Strange Angel on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:14 am:

Well, I must say that the comments on this site have suprised me GREATLY. Im shocked that so many people have quoted the bible so... sparingly. Have any of you actualy read that thing cover to cover?
I doubt it.
As for the 2012 theory, the atomic clock, which measures the rate that the earth is slowing down (yes, remember simple science, what comes up must come down, its the same concept)leads us to belive that in 2012/13 the earth will have slowed down to the point of stoping which will in turn start spining the other way.
in turn that will make the poles switch, cause earth quakes, volcanos to erupt and tidal waves to occour.
Typical biblical doomsday stuff, but im bassing my belief on scientific evidence not on any religon.
Anonymous on Saturday, July 8, 2000 - 06:51 pm said that the 'truth' would be sealed untill the 'end of days'... maybe he/she/they/it should check out a book called the Bible Code.
it might answer a few questions for he/she/they/it
any way, now im just rambeling on.
In my opinion the Mayans were an advanced race. they figured out a few things we're only cottoning onto now, so we should put some stock into what they said.
As for 2012, check out the scientific info, (search for words like 'atomic clock')and decide for your self. at least then youll be making an educated decision.

By Ashley on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:04 am:

I don't believe that anyone knows when the world is going to end. I believe that it will just happen whenever the world is in really bad shape not at a certain date. Well the world is in pretty bad shape now so we might want to be prepared! I don't mean we should expect it any day now or something like that but I mean it has to happen eventually. About the whole 2012 thing hmmm.. maybe that actually could be for real cuz I mean if they were smart enough to count up to 2012 don't u think they would have been smart enough to have 1 # to that. hmm. maybe someone back in the day just got lazy and didn't feel like coming up with another year on the calendar

By Fatherrotosky on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 01:18 am:

I dont know if its going to happen in 2012 but now we need to prepare for dimensional change,energy feilds and the magnetic feilds to change drasticly, there has already been proof of these changes, its that the media seems to be controlling peoples minds to keep them from knowing whats really going on, this is the governments plan TO GET PEOPLE STUPID, i knew a freind in military intellegence and he told me that the tv puts out magnetic waves into the atmosphere around you shrinking your petuatary gland! the government is controlling everything,keeping our heads in the dirt, or distracting us if you will.

By Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 04:28 pm:

It's been a while since I studied but I remember that the Mayans had what was deemed as the most accurate calender. It was even more accurate the the Gregorian calender.The Mayans had some left over days at the ends of many of their years.They thought the world could end too.They wouldn't light fires then etc..The Mayans were as flawed and clueless as every one else.The bible people are right,only God knows.This is "Mom"

By Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 04:28 pm:

It's been a while since I studied but I remember that the Mayans had what was deemed as the most accurate calender. It was even more accurate the the Gregorian calender.The Mayans had some left over days at the ends of many of their years.They thought the world could end too.They wouldn't light fires then etc..The Mayans were as flawed and clueless as every one else.The bible people are right,only God knows.This is "Mom"

By Icland15 on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 07:59 pm:

what would the world end from. disease, death, other worldly beings???

By Anonymus on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 02:05 pm:

To Icland15,Hi I wasn't sure if you were addressing me "Mom" or the subject in general.I got my information from grade school social studies some 35 to 40 years ago.The Mayans weren't sure how it would end they were taking any precautions.

By Douglas Hayse on Monday, September 1, 2003 - 01:23 am:

well try looking at other very OLD peoples they have maped our entire solar sys. 6,000 years ago how they did that I dont know but it is on the stone that has 10 planets not 9 the 10th planet comes by every 3,600 years causing high winds, pole shifts= (the earths surface moving around on the mantel)in exsample the usa could become the south pole. sudden mt ranges, ect.. and the planet is red and has a red dust coming from it that truns the moon red and the sky. also it stops the rotation of the earth for 3 days all this due to the gravity from the planet it says in the bible revelations

revelations 6:12 I Watched as he open the sixth seal. There was a Great earthquake. the sun trund black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon truned blood red, and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a tree when shaken by a strong wind. the sky receded like a scroll, rolling up, and every mountian and island was removed from its place.

go and look up thing on planet x and look up news articals and .edu postings reseach the effects of this not yet (seen) planet would have by gravity it mactches revelations 6:12

where it says the sky receded like a scroll that is what you would see if the earths crust moved from one point to the other and would cause the worst earthquakes we know of making mt. move new ones ect.

other proof look it up the earths rotation is slowing down

By Thunder on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 06:21 pm:

in todays paper how much you wanna bet the Myans are right and the astronomers are off a little with when this puppy will hit.....

U.S. astronomers are sending out a
warning, saying a huge asteroid is
making its way toward Earth and could
hit in 2014.

But thereís no need to call on Bruce Willis to save us from
Armageddon. The possibility of a disastrous smash is just one
in 909,000.

Over the next two months, experts will be keeping a close eye
on Asteroid "2003 QQ47", with a possible hit date of March 21,
2014. But astronomers have explained that the danger of
collision will probably go down once more information is

According to the British government's Near Earth Object
Information Center, the impact of such an asteroid could be
comparable to the effects of 20 million Hiroshima atomic

Asteroids are actually pieces of rock that are remnants of the
solar systemís formation 4.5 billion years ago. Usually theyíre
kept at bay in the asteroid belt thatís located between Mars
and Jupiter.

Sometimes though, the gravitational effects of planets such as
Jupiter can push them out of those orbits and in our direction.

By Timmy diamond on Thursday, September 4, 2003 - 03:00 pm:

I think the world is going to end with a huge world war. Every country will be involed. There willbe 3 sides to the war instead of 2. The world will become so currupt that everyone will start killing each other.
p.s. that will never happen a astroid will hit the earth on march 21st 2014. It said there is one heading for earth in the paper so the ancient Myans may only be 2 years off. If you think about it there calender was a little off too.

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and wife. I believe the most important thing in the life is LOVE and friendship. I mean the true
and clean love, no life without love, the love is life and the life is love, nothing is more valuable than love in the life the love can change everything, we love ourself and the life
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By Buckethead on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 04:07 pm:

Whether the world ends in 2012 or not is irrevalent. It will be quick and initially painless. If there is a cosmic meltdown or a biblical explaination, man can do nothing to prevent the happening so we must live life to the fullest.
Every day the world ends for some....

By Darguzhis on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:36 pm:

Hello. That's me Elfis from da heart of Springfield. The truth is somewhere outhere. And i see it. 10 to go... I'll be waiting for ya...

By Vel darguzhis on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:37 pm:

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By Da Real Buckethead on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:39 pm:

Whether the world ends in 2012 or not is irrevalent. It will be quick and initially painless. If there is a cosmic meltdown or a biblical explaination, man can do nothing to prevent the happening so we must live life to the fullest.
Every day the world ends for some....
That's me own opinion! Shalom

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By Bernardin on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:43 pm:

I'm an Alcoholic!

By Neo on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:44 pm:

I see dead people!

By Andrew on Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - 07:44 pm:

Here is something else to add to your idea. Who has heard of the Crystal Skulls? They predict that in 2013 there will be a major overhaul in our race as a collected conscience and that peace will finally be attained.

I believe that the Crystal Skulls may be of Demonic origin, and as such they are predicting that to keep us from the truth.

Also, in the Bible Code II it is stated that in 2006 there will be a major terrorist act in the middle east (ie: probably Israel) that will spark the apocolyptic events foretold in Revelation. In Revelation seven years are planned out for the Tribulation. Keeping that in mind, seven years from 2006 would be 2013.

By Evothek9 on Thursday, October 2, 2003 - 01:21 am:

my thoughts? Hmmm lemme think about this... in the 1950's to 60's, hell even as late as 1980's they wrote computer programs that didn't bother to code for the century that follows. as a result we got the Y2k panic.. I think that the 2012 end date is merely that.. they went as far as they could and then stopped. didn't bother going any further because really... how many of them are gonna be around to check and see if they're right? likely everything followed a nice mathematical formula that when played out ended in 2012. So the Calendar ends there. Anything after that could be added on by whoever was around in the years leading up to 2012.

By Upmade2 on Monday, October 6, 2003 - 08:18 pm:

Bible Codes say that in 2012 a Comet or Astroid so big will do it to it to the Earth. THE END OF TIMES. A great wind from the fallen Rock shall cause TIDAL WAVES, etc. THE STONE OF THE SEVEN SEALS is coming very soon! The Stone is problably that "ROCK" of the Seals maybe headed towards earth in 2012. The STONE OF HE SEVEN SEALS is in the Holy Bible. It will block the RED WANDERER, "MARS" PLANET from Earth's view! This Rock of a Comet or Astroid will pass between Earth and Mars. It will be very very huge! Not all life will die, but, for life, Revelations also says THE POINT OF NO RETURN which means bad news for a mutlidude of millions of people. Animals will panic. The y2Crash is coming, so get prepared, men, women, teenagers, nerds, thieves, killers, prostitutes, preachers, teachers, law officers, doctors, YOU IN FOR THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE SOONER THAN YOU THINK! Pray to Jesus Christ to save you and ask him to help you survive the coming CHAOS!

By Burt on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 - 05:11 am:

I can say with utter certainty that, for some people, 2012 WILL BE the end of the world; for the rest of us, I'm not sure.

By Highly enlightend pot head on Thursday, October 9, 2003 - 06:52 am:


By Wanda Hastings on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 10:48 pm:

I agree with the one that said with the pole shift around that date will be a "pause" of time. The sun will be seen for several days straight and a period of darkness will fall. There have been other pole shifts in the past but not as drastic as the future one, and each of these caused the time to stop or atleast slow down. With each catamylistic (sp) thing done on Earth, the human race has had to start all over because records were lost. Who cares about time frame and dates when you're trying to survive? So, in general, who realy knows *what* time it is? It could actually be the year 2007 if you think about it. And, as far as these people just posting to critisize other's opinions saying people are stupid to think this of 2012...you're here too, so obviosly this can't be that dumb of a subject. Think I'm crazy, I don't care but I believe aliens are realy demons. Think about it...invisibility, top-notch speed, levitation, the ability to transform solid matter into spiritual and manifest themselves in any form they like, playing with one's mind, probing, brainwashing, hybrids, the list goes on. Does there need to be anymore info? They have the same capabilities as one and the same. Have more later.

By Marley on Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 11:07 pm:

The Myans were a highly advanced race (as least mathematically) Their mathematical calculations were tied closely to astrology. They were able to calculate solar anomolies as far back as 500,000 before their existance. Not only that, but they have predicted solor eclipses that we have seen in our lifetime (and they did this 1,000 years ago) Their predictions were only 33 seconds off. If they believed that the world would end in 2012, it had to have been because they predicted a collision of some type. (perhaps an asteroid or something)

By EvotheK9 on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 02:14 am:

had another thought.. maybe the calendar ends in 2012 because we haven't figured out the glyph for "please turn over" and the rest of the calendar is on the other side of the rock. we just haven't noticed yet.

By A on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 08:22 am:

pleeeeeassseee, you are all mad. Honestly just grow up.

By P.Rican Btch on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 08:36 am:

Well personally I don't think the world will come to an end. Maybe something big will happen.(like maybe weed will be legal) No just kidding but maybe something like judgement day or something.!!! ;)

By Bmn on Tuesday, December 2, 2003 - 11:05 pm:

2012/2210;To be or not to be.

By Bmn on Tuesday, December 2, 2003 - 11:12 pm:

2012/2210;Well,at least the Wallabies got the cup.

By John bergin on Sunday, December 7, 2003 - 12:09 pm:


By Villain on Monday, December 22, 2003 - 06:29 pm:

All I know is:

If my Mayan calendar subscription runs out in 2012, I'll still have my Hooters calendar to refer to!

By Callicantzaros on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 12:04 am:

you guys are all cattle and sheep being led around by your noses.jesus christ was a fanatic moron who got nailed because he couldnt keep his pie hole shut, which is exactly what i would have done to him had i been there except i would have had his body reduced to ash and scattered in a public dump with the rest of the waste....
mohammad was another loser, in fact all middle eastern religions are based on wackos and freaks living on the fringes of sanity.
humans are an advanced animal , nothing more , nothing less....all this spiritual bunk has developed because the human mind cannot fathom its own mortality , and has to compensate with the notion of immortal life after death.thus securing the "superiority" of humans over other life ...
the reality is people die and there is nothing left ...no spiritual residue , no psychic slime, nothing ...just a rotting pile of meat that used to be someone...now its just fertilizer ...burn it to kill of disease and plant the ashes in your flower garden....along with the roadkill you scraped of the highway last week..
it doesnt matter people...humans are nothing special...we just think we are.

By K on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 08:48 pm:

well anything could happen. Put i heard lots of theorys thats are gonna happen to 3-15 years. lets just say where in one of the final chapters of life. but if the predictions of the mayans are correct or accurate its either gonna be an astroid, the core will stop, or all hell breaks loose.
Personally i think in 2014 an astroid will come and hit us because an astroid killed off the diasaurs. and isnt it weird a huge astroid hasnt hit us in millions of years.
and if it hits(a huge astroid)the earth will create a huge earthquake of some like and the astroid will be on fire and the land will catch on fire then the dust particles will block the sun from getting into the atmosphere creating an iceage, making there be no food, and maybe nobody surving the iceage.
other theorys a nuclear holocaust in 2006.
2014 astroid
the anti chirst will come
middle east will rise
2012 you already know
and all these theorys are predicted is below the year of 2015.
before the end of the world happens we should make peace and have the happiest life in our few years.
also the mayans said it would be on december 23, 2012 and exactely at 11:00 a.m.

By C.Burton on Thursday, January 1, 2004 - 10:50 pm:

I find it funny that so many people think that "Time" has an ending. Humanity is indeed flawed, as so many have pointed out, and the greatest invention that Humanity has ever made is also flawed. People of all race have been trying to figure out when the world is going to end- only because they know nothing else in the cycles of Life. Every Generation of Humanity has learned that Death is a natural part of Life, and the concept of "TIME" only fuels it. The Mayans believed that their world was Born on approximately either 06 Sept 3114BCE, 08 Sept 3114BCE and 11 Nov 3374 BCE(Julian Date; there are ways to do the math, find them to prove to yourself. There are debates on the exact date, but these are the three agreed upon), and the next time that their calendar returns to that five digit date is approx 21st/23rd Dec 2012, or 25th/27th Feb.2262 CE.
According to the Christian Bible, the world was born less than 10 000 years before the man who would later be called the Christ was born. Science shows us that the world was around for 65 million years.
Math and physics, my fellows, shows us our own flaw.
According the the Bible, "God" gave us "his only begotten son" to pay for Humanities "sins", and that when this... well, essentially 'His experiment' was over then those who lived in "His" ways would be given another form of rebirth.
Also, the concept of "Time" is noticed within this 'Holy' "Book" (Bible- from the Greek Biblios, meaning Book) when "God" created the World "He" did so in 6 days and took the 7th to rest. Some biblical mathematicians somehow came up with a form of math that equated every day for "God" to be akin to 1000 years for Humanity. This still brings us to approx. 10 000 years before "His Son" was sent to redeem.
(From Adam To Noah the bible says there was 1556 years, and Noah lived 350 years after the flood). The unfortuante thing about all of this Biblical math is the Equivalency of "Time". What was a Day? How long was a Year? Are we to honestly believe that someone lived for 967 years, by our current calculations?

The Mayans, as well as their 'sister culture', the Egyptians (for there are definate parallels to their cultures) were great mathematicians and philosophers, everything comes down to the passage of "TIME". It is a man- made figment that people think they could control. Through this thought alone, "Time Travel" is impossible. Cycles happen, but never identically, and the passage of "Time" is not static and predictable. Humanities view of the "End Times" are askew in that no Human has ever lived forever, so everything must end- including that which "Time" was made to measure: Cycles of Life.

So I say- Life your Life, because we all know that Death is waiting- and It doesn't punch a Clock.

By Messenger on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 12:56 am:

At the center of the Milky Way is a giant black star or "black hole." At each end of its axis it is spewing out large amounts of gamma-rays. The earth and solar system will align with the axis of the star on December 23 2012. These gamma-rays will change reality as we see it and the people on this plannet at that time will never be the same afterwords.

The earth gets bombarded by cosmic gamma-rays everyday, except the earths magnetic field blocks out most of these rays. Some do get through but only near the earths poles where the field is the weakest. This is also because we are not now getting a direct hit from distant stars. But for one year starting Dec. 23 2012 we will be in the direct path of this giant cosmic stream of gamma-rays. The closer we get to this date the more physic things will happen to a choice few. In the month of June year 2013 will be at the peak of enlightenment. This is when all will know the truth.

Discovery was made on the effects of gamma-rays to the human brain. Some people that were tested with high amounts of gamma-rays became so to speak more aware or being able to see things before they happened (visions, insight). Some became frightened from their experience and ended their own life. In the bible it says that Jesus will come like a thief in the night and when the time does come everyone will know. I believe that the only way everyone would be able to know is if something physical happened to each and everyone of us on earth at the same time. Like this event of passing through the gamma-ray stream of energy from our black star. The Mayans called it the time of enlightenment or like when we all will see the truth. This has happened before and will continue to happen on 26,000 year intervals. Maybe this is the key to our evolution? This event will probable cause great distruction between people and government. When the truth is known all will be different here. We will start a new world and this is what is possibly meant by the Mayans. The earth will not end but there will be many changes in the way we live. There will be peace for 2000 years or up untill the event is written off as folk lore once again.

I cannot wait for you to know the truth for it shall set you free.

By J. Tangnon on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 01:48 am:

Dude... Just a curiousity- who chooses the Choice Few? Or what? and the not so choice? Do they become Incredible Hulk Rejects?
And what are you using as reference? Is this something that "they" told you?
Other than these points, nice theory.

By J. Tangnon on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 01:50 am:

Just a point... All that you have done is substitute one Diety with another.. although your second diety is within the realms of science...
You still put faith into a theory- and it is faith that creates gods.

By Joshua melek on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 06:35 pm:

Having read a lot of these posts i really hope the end is coming, most of you can hardly string a paragraph together without screwing up on the spelling. I'm not so much worried by a distant date as i am by the fact that a lot of you are either of breeding age or already have children. As for the religious people out there nothing personal but do you even pay attention to what is written in the bible? Your "loving father" is the most voilent entity i've ever read about, first he punishes adam and eve for becoming aware of good and evil then, when he's not accepting blood sacrifice he's taking the first borns, sending plagues or demanding worship such an insecure being may be worthy of pity but not worship.

By Dexter on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 12:54 pm:

Sitting here reading these posts really makes you think. It makes you think about how frail and scared our culture is. Our society freaks at the drop of a hat. From past prophecies we should be dead already. What happened to Y2K? I don't remember planes dropping from the sky and the anti-christ rising from Hell. The worst thing that happened was trying to buy a bottle of water and sky harbor airport having the date read as 1900. 2012 is years from now. Is everyone really going to sit here and count down to the end of time. No one can predict it. Any one of us could be involved in an accident or get a disease at any moment. What would be the point of life if the end was predicted for us. Live one day at at a time and just accept what happens to you and live with it. And one last thing, it is amazing to see some of these posts. I really hope most of the post's are from second graders still learning how to spell.

By Phoenix_knight on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 12:11 pm:

What I find sad is the nit-picking people do to other peoples scholastic capabilities. So they misspelled a few words- are people that shallow as to miss the point that is made? Maybe they are english as a second language students or a plethora of other decisive factors?

"If someone points at the moon, do you only look at the finger?"- Bruce Lee

By Doc on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 08:12 pm:

Some happen to miss-spell words. So what.. If you are worried about a miss-spelled word or that the information came from a second grader then oh' well. Laughing.. I heard Albert Einstein often transposed letters when he wrote "mixed up his letters". Would you have called him a second grader?

By Kahluha on Saturday, February 7, 2004 - 05:05 pm:

Man will continue to predict tomorrow as the end as long as he continues to wake up today

By Sneaky_Sphinx on Saturday, February 7, 2004 - 09:17 pm:

Well... when does OUR calendar end?

By J. Tangnon on Sunday, February 8, 2004 - 02:59 am:

Sneaky_sphinx: The Julian calendar, as we know it, does not have an ending... it is based on the cycles of 'luna in perpetuatim', essentially the mathematical equivalent of Infinity. A lunar month equals approximately 28 days, (give or take one or two either way, which you may also note as a match to another phenomena- womens menstrual cycles- thus why Luna is a feminine goddess... sorry, a little sidetracked), 365 days a year, and the addition of a leap year day every four years is designed to keep our calendar connected to the land- for harvesting etc. It also 'puts the sun back' into its predicted position.
There is a lot of math... not my strong point.
But, if you will notice, the moon phases are never on the same day each month- the shift is about three or so days back. Which means that each month is two or three days longer than that cycle. If you do the math, we have about 13 months of 28 days, but since 13 is supposedly an unlucky number (due to Judas Iscariot) and 12 is supposed to be Divine, more days were added to the calendar months (which originally had October as the eighth month, July and August were added for the Ceasars <Julius and Augustus> during their reigns, and the calendar was adjusted during Constantines Reign).

This is why so many people are 'spooked': the 'Christian' Calendar does not have an end date whereas the Mayans does... Feeds on peoples fears of 'did they know something we don't?' etc.
Alrighty.. I digress...
Hope this helps anyway

By Roger V on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 07:25 pm:

`To use wisdom to aid one's dying society will not be appreciated when its masses are programmed too stupid to see reality!'

By Roger V on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 07:27 pm:

`The program of Nature allows the soul to teach itself, whatever trauma is required to get some lesson learned. It should be that lesson of knowing what a freed electron can do!'

By Roger V on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 07:31 pm:

`The freed electron discriminator to automatically record some TV or radio program for later playback will be the device to best teach the few curious left on planet earth-- to truly accelerate the human animal's final evolutional epoch.'

By Roger V on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 07:33 pm:

`To replicate a biological molecule requires a freed electron, governed by a mind that knows ahead of time what is correct for the operation of such ensuing molecule.'

By Roger V on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 07:38 pm:

`As long as the public remains intimidated by federal systems, as they by educational and pharmaceuticals, we can understand now why the masses cannot understand how a 60 cent micro-electrode is able to rid cancer 100%!'

By SINED on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 10:49 pm:

What comes will come, live for the now, love thy neighbour, I feel it is too late, we have seen many signs, intepret what you want.Yes we do have the technology and the power to save the planet, but it will be impossible when a mad handfull make all the decisions.

By Pyramid142 on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:11 am:


By Twin_doves on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:39 pm:

Excuse me, Pyramid142... If you would not mind, could you please specify the nature of your information? I am curious as to the theory you present. YHVG... These are new shorthand for Yahweh (YHWH)-sometimes written Iahweh for pronunciation- or Jehovah as some faiths have it translated into English.
From what I understand, there are no Y's, H's, or V's in the names of the DNA molecules. There are Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine, Thymine and Uracil, but nothing that begins with those three letters.
Also, could you please elaborate on your point of "demutation"? Are you saying that humanity is a mutant strand of some 'original helix'?
Interesting theory, but what do you base it upon?
Could you also point out the passages that 'God' said that "he" wouldn't end the world? I believe that "he" said that "he" would never again flood the world, but not that "he" would never end it. And does this not refute the whole essence of Revelations?
As well, I find that your religious foundations are mixed interestingly with Pagan beliefs... "Mother Earth" is a predominantly Gaian approach to the views of human origin. I find this a very interesting mixture, and commend your originality. And "vibrations" were not a concept preached (and therefore accepted) by the Christian Faith- so, from what I gather, you are extolling a system of belief that focuses on harmonic energies and the interaction of those energies in a cycle of life.
Or maybe a Philosophical vantage of Musical Notations of the basis of life...

So, from what I can figure and interpret, the "simple" interpretation of the 2012 dillema is not so...
But I am sure that, with a few of the answers sought after above, all of this can be wasily and "simply" cleared...

By Samuel_humble_06 on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 01:00 pm:

you all who think that ufo's are going to take over the world and that the world is going to come to a end in 2015 your crazy. only god knows when the world is going to come to a end.

By Twin_doves on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 10:07 pm:

Mr. Humble...
Do you think that 'god' would create something, just so 'he' could destroy it? Do you draw a painting, just to tear it up? How about having children? Do you bear them, raise them, only to kill them?
Why would such a loving deity do this?
Unless of course you think of 'God' in the Old testament ways- being wrathful and jealous. Yes, both of these observations are justified in the bible...

I think that before you point fingers and tell everyone else they are crazy, you should think about how other people feel about blind faith...

If you would like to personally send an email with all of your thoughts on the subject, I am always willing to share in intellectual discourse.
This also goes for any slanderous comments you feel you need to release.

By TRACY SIMONE-HUDSON on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 05:10 am:

Mr TwinDoves,
Mr Humble quite rightly states that nobody knows the hour the end will come, for the world (as we know it) will end, only Father knows when, many will say it is here next week, next year, tommorow or next month, but only the Father knows the hour.
Listen up, God is good, He Is a Creator of Life and He builds up encourages and adds life to people.
The World as we comprehend it right now and observe it right now is and will end in time, but if you believe in the truth you will realise as you read the Bible that there is a new earth coming after.
Also my dear friend, we are not merely flesh and blood, but we are made up of may things as humans. We are mind, body, soul and spirit. Whilst the flesh body (our mortal tent) will die, our spirits will live on and will stand before the Amighty God in judgement on the appointed day at the appointed time. We will then have to give an account to Him of our deeds done in this body wether good or bad.
However, God is a God of Love and wants you to come to Him on the basis of free choice and will. He never scaremongers anyone and never leads or moves by fear. These folk who prophesy of the end of the world are basically scaremongering and adding fear, and I can guarantee you not one of them is right in their judgement nor of God.
So, Mr Twin Doves, you must see things correctly and in perspective.
I say this not arrogantly but in sincere love.
Alas, 'you can take a horse to the water but you cannot make it drink'
Kindest Regards
Tracy Simone-Hudson
Minister Of God

By Twin_doves on Monday, March 1, 2004 - 10:37 pm:

Ms. Simone-Hudson.
Could you please tell me how the plagues, the flood, and teh burning of an entire city are not punishments that are retold to people so they will stay in line?
And if you would be so kind- why would "he" create something only to destroy it?

"All roads lead to Rome" is another saying, and it doesn't refer to Christianity as Rome... So how can you truly say that there is only one right way?
Is there only one way to climb a mountain?
Each path gets you to the top, and all will have troubles along the way, with decisions to be made...
Sounds like free choice to me...
But I am only a theology scholar, and one who believes that all positive faiths have a positive effect on the human psyche, and all are equally grounded.

My apologies if I do not submit to naming a higher authority with a patriarchal label that had to be revamped in so many different ways just to gather and retain acceptance after hundreds of years of bloodshed...

By TRACY SIMONE-HUDSON on Wednesday, March 3, 2004 - 04:52 am:

Hi Twin-Doves,
The God I serve is a giver and creator of all life. As a somewhat learned person with some knowledge I expect you will already know that there is also a devil, that is, the one who destroys life and takes life.
There is a constant battle that goes on between good and evil but of course the war is already won by the Lord Jesus when he died on the cross at Calvary 2000 years ago.
I could go on forever speaking and debating and reasoning of doctrines and truths, but you know what?
The bottom line is you come to Jesus with your heart and not your head (brain).
I cannot explain what the wind looks like but it is there and we can all see its effects.

You quote the Old Testament where cities were destroyed because of the sin of the people. But you know,
when read in context you will find just how merciful God really is, as they had loads of opportunity and time to repent before those things happened in many cases.

Now we follow the New Testament way, and that is Jesus. He did not come to do away with the law of the Old Testament, but rather to fulfil it.

We follow now, the law of Love, that is in Christ.
I pray that the eyes of you understanding will be enlightened.

By Fercho on Thursday, March 4, 2004 - 03:30 am:

How many of you people have ever taken the time to close your eyes in the off silence of a dark, starry night, and just use the little portion of your brain your capable of using..what is it, somewhere between 6 and 10 percent? think about how vast our universe is. Think about how little we can really know, how many universes there can be, its been discovered that our solar system is not the only one out there, i've heard of at least one other solar system, and that was about eight years ago. Ever wonder whatís on the other side of a black hole? think about it, where can this "black hole" possibly lead. a hole in our universe, caused from a star exploding? I don't believe our minds can comprehend such things, though i wish they could. think about this...all we know of life is that we are here, how we got here, we do not know. but the universe had to start somewhere. take the big bang theory, a bunch of gases came together to start our universe, i don't know much about the theory, but lets say its fact. where did these gases come from, life as we know it cannot make sense, there are no answers, and this is very apparent if you think about where "God" would have come from. how did life get started, it is a question that cannot be answered. The harder you think about it the more confusing it gets, and there are scientists that have actually gone mad because of this. As for everything else i have read on this page about prophecies that have come true, and prophecies that may come true, they are very irrelevant, humans are capable of some very strange things. lets take martial arts for example. A fifteen-pound block of cement hitting a skull hard enough could kill a man. but that same brick, hit on that same head, at the same speed by a man that uses something within, something that gives him a strength, and that brick is NOTHING to him, his head will go through it as if it does not even exist at all...no wound, no bruise, nothing. how is that possible. perhaps temporarily realizing that nothing truly exists as we know it, using part of the brain that cannot be unlocked through rational thought? this is one of many examples i can think of. The main thing we as a people need to keep in mind is...and this is only WHAT I THINK...religion was started because people could never find the answers they were searching for. December 23, 2012 a.d. You want to know what that date is to me? nothing but the lyrics from a band that makes life just that much more enjoyable...you gonna stand around till 2012 a.d.? what are you waiting for, a certain shade of green -incubus. However, from what i have learned from the intelligent people that have posted on this website, there have been patterns leading to things such as the ice age, and global warming does seem to be the start of something potentially dangerous. there are so many things that exist in this life, this life that has no clear meaning at all, a question i chose to think about after taking some shrooms, quite possibly one of the strangest experiences of my life, magic mushrooms tend to let you see past that of the corrupt human world, and see life for what it really truly is to us, or at least me...memories, its all just a bunch of memories. you understand that after psilocybin(the chemical contained in mushrooms) lets you forget all you hold dear in life..all material possessions. you think of family, friends, and you see them in a whole new light...all i saw was the memories that i had made in the past with friends and family, and none of those memories contained a convertible or dodge pickup with the new super charged engine. all the memories were that of friends and nature, its no wonder the mayans were such intelligent peoples...all of them tripped on shrooms (:
but when it comes right down to it, there is no answer to our existence that we can truly conceive of, we had to have been created by something, this something we will call "GOD", and the son of God may be Jesus Christ (and f.y.i. its a Historical fact that Jesus Christ existed) but why would one god create such a small group of people, place them on earth and call it good? The universe goes on forever, as a matter of fact, the universe is expanding as we speak...how does a universe that is already endless keep on expanding? what exactly is the universe expanding into? yep, that's another one of those damn questions that won't stop. I believe levitation is possible, if busting a cement block over one's head without suffering from even the slightest bruise is possible, why not levitation? I've seen a 200 pound man walk across paper held in place 3 feet above the ground, making himself virtually weightless, i've seen a man swim through arctic water under ice, only to emerge with a normal body temperature. Life as we know it is full of questions, hopefully i've given you more pertinent things to think about rather than 2012 a.d., a year made by mankind, whom invented time in accordance to the sun and blah blah blah...i'm sure the mayans knew something that we do not, they were a civilization that in many ways were more advanced than even we are, but i do not believe that the year 2012 ad will be a doomsday, nor great awakening to the new golden age of men, or 2nd coming of christ....i believe it will be another sunday, in which i'll drink my coffee and make love to my wife, maybe go golfing, who cares. i'm sure near 2012 we will have to face some things concerning the aligning of the planets and what has to happen to ensure our cell phones still work...perhaps a few more serious issues than that...but all in all, i'm not too worried about it. Like many of you people, despite what i have said, on 12/23/2012 will probably be sitting on my porch with a shotgun in one hand and bottle of captain in the other, then come to realize as the day in a time zone not of my own goes from 12/23/2012 to 12/24/2012, that even if the end of the world as we know it is coming, why would it happened according to central standard time? After all, Jesus wasn't from America. Peace

p.s. dan_fercho@hotmail.com if you've got anything to say

By Gut_feeling on Thursday, March 4, 2004 - 11:09 pm:

Tomorrow on May 5th 2004 three planets will form a perfect iss. triangle. The last time this happened was a little over 2000 years ago. It was the event that marked the birth of Jesus. 2038 years or so. My kids said maybe Jesus will be born again. I sure hope so I told them.

By Gut_feeling on Thursday, March 4, 2004 - 11:12 pm:

oops its late and im tired I ment March not May

By Twin_doves on Monday, March 8, 2004 - 09:00 am:

Hello Fercho... Nice post.
But I am curious... Are you saying that becuase King Herod tried to kill all of the little boys under two years of age that this is proof enough to say that Jesus existed?
That is like saying that the Flood is solely attibuted to the Christian God, when in fact there is a multitude of stories from a multitude of societies (such as the Greeks and Romans) stating that there was a flood, and giving different reasons and solutions for it. (the Greeks and Romans for instance believed that Poseidon/ Neptune got all pissed off at humanity and flooded the earth and Zeus/ Jupiter took an elderly couple aside and told them to throw stones over their shoulder to create new people).

The Bible is the only mainstream account of the LIfe of Joshua (Jesus Christ is a title, not a name, because he was Jewish born)... And there is little else to support his life...

By Killer_odd_sock on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 02:01 pm:

Thinking this over makes life seem like one big computer game or something, doesnt it? Maybe its just me...

By Briana Lowrie on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 06:18 am:

I believe 2012 will bring an end to what we(Americans) can concieve as an infinate energy source. Whether that be oil or what. Economics between blue and white collars will mesh and it will be a test of human survival. Something will happen so that we can depend on no one else but ourselves, families, and friends. Now is the time to live and promote sustainable lifestyles, albeit growing organic foods for yourself and community, alternate energy sorces(solar,gas,etc.), and political choice. If you think people have it rough in other countries, get ready to prove yourselves. Evolution is coming!

By Cassandra None-Ya-Business on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 08:49 pm:

Who freaking cares, i didn't even know about this site, i was researching asteriods and came upon it. Back to my opinion, who cares? The Earth will come to an end, as all things do. But why worry? Our God put us here to live, not wonder when we won't any longer. If you honestly believe the world will end, than shouldn't you be wanting to make the most of what time you have? WAKE UP-cassie, 14yr

By Young-and-informed on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 09:01 pm:

Wait wait wait, if you don't believe in the bible and God, you could at least have the manner of not making it public. I don't walk around dissin Buddah and those other gods, you know why? it's just wrong, if you have a stick up someplace than keep it to yourself or pull it out! If you do believe in the teachings of the holy bible, you should kow it mentions we shouldn't question God. So stop, as for what i read earlier, people lived to be 700 and older because the earth was alot more pure than it has come to be. DUH, so all of you that think you're all that and a bag of chips because you think you have something against God, backoff and shut up, for all we know you could be an abused child with issues, so take em somewhere else-PEACE

By La Bamba on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 08:31 am:

It seems to me that our lives have been taken over by the illuminati/Masons and that they have contributed an awful lot of evil on to the human race with their so called intellect. If there is to be a catastrophic end to this eon then the illuminati would be very aware of this and go and hide in their underground cities such as Upper Heyford in the UK amonst others, where the Masonic humans can shelter with their alien lizard counterparts.
After us surface dwellers have been practically wiped out by all the upheaval of the cataclysm, the illuminati will probably climb out of their hiding places to start life afresh and as it takes mother nature 10 years to regenerate, it will be approx 10 years after 2012 that they will resurface.
I, along with a large percentage of people, cannot afford a pension due to the penny pinching exploits of our pathetic economic controllers, so I rather hope that after the angels have delivered us to their dimension, we will be able to see that the concept of money was an insult to the intelligence of the human race and that the only true way to survive and evolve would be through love, compassion and forgiveness (As in the words of the great John Lennon:- All you need is love).
Lets hope that when the illuminati and their Masonic counterparts resurface that they realize that their 'Great Work of Ages' is nothing more than an outdated Draconian system that the majority of human souls could do well without and that to love On (As in the great John Lennons lyric 'I'd love to turn you on') as they were invited to do in the first place when they originally came to Heliopolis, will be their primary concern, and that they have the intelligence to dismiss the concepts of their so-called gods Jah and Bul.

By J. Tangnon on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 06:14 pm:

Whoa... La bamba...
Just a curiousity thing - Conspiracy the first word in your dictionary?
I think you are reading too deep into the powers of the human gather.
I do not deny the possible existance of the Illuminati, but as the end all be all contollers of the world? Um, no.
John Lennon said a lot of things, he was also stoned and coked out on the major drugs of the time.
When you take these things, I am sure that you see interesting and wonderful things as well... maybe feel that the world is out to get you and only you - and maybe that the cops know what is going on, and are only trying to giev you a false sense of security by not picking you up...

2012 is not some end all, nor is it some reason to just get high and watch the world burn...
It is a calculatory question of "why"... Why did the Mayans, who had extremely well defined mathematical skills, decide to make a calendar that had an end date? Maybe it was just because everything is supposed to go back to the beginning and start over (a la "Circle of life" - for all you Lion King lovers out there), or because the guys that were developing it went "Hey, why make a calendar 5000 years long- let the guy who is there at the time make more! I'm going home"

That is the crux of this debate - not some half cocked "Freemasons let Jack the Ripper loose and now want to take over the world" schtick.
So what, Big Brother probably does exist - but you live in an elected Dictatorship in North America... You have the ILLUSION of free will, freedom of speech, gathering etc. At what point does an OUTSIDE agency govern your life. They are right there in front of you, and you put then in power.

By Ben bartlett on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:00 pm:

The mayans probably didnt see any point of creating a very long calendar, how long is ours? i dont know how long but it probably spans for a few thousand years, maybe less then 1000 years, and then stops, only to be added gradually. does this man the world will end before we add to it, know, it means that we will only add to it. thats 6 year old logic. The mayans died out. dead men tell no tales. we are still living, and live we will until our end, wether it be by God, or by disease, or mysterious worldwide destruction, whats the point in even dscussing it. go out and live you're life to the fullest, you never know when you might end, and it might be before or after this 2012 bullshit gets proven wrong.

By Messenger on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 07:47 pm:

You will not meet God in heaven. God is too pure to be in the presence of such sinners. You will be judged by God's Son. If you are evil your soul shall surely die.

Your every thought shall acompany you on your last journey and this will be the basis of your placement in the heavens. McDougal's found loss of mass to IQ ratio at death proves this. Look it up on the Internet if you doubt it.

Besides, according to the Testiment of Levi (dead sea scrolls) The Earth will end when the Sun shines from within the Earth (becomes a star) and that is when there will be no more evil. There will be no one left here to sin again. That will not happen for millions of years, Global Expansion Theory.


I love you God forever.


By One_who_sees_you on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 08:06 pm:

The Mayan's used this date to represent the alignment of our solar system and the center of our galaxies black star, nothing more. Quit your whining and get on with your lives, live good and be kind, and you will live long and happy. Dont be the judge or jury but listen and learn. Most of all love yourself and God and you will choose the right path.

Oh yea, if your neighbor bothers you and you call the police to complain, you are being judgemental and God dispises this. Then where do you think you will end up after this life? Probably stuck there with the spirits of the retributions for vengeance on the wicked forever (second heaven).

By Hella on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 12:52 pm:

ok.....nope the world will not end there. Though, that will be the end of the 3rd dimension and the beginning of the fourth where ILLUMINATI begings. A one world gov. one world economy and a one world religion. one world gov. ruled by the antichrist, the one world economy where one gets the mark, the one-world religion where you'll have to bow down and submit yourself to the statue of the beast. If any of these refused you'll live undergroung in the tunnels as a slave, surviving as a bird. Or just get killed. God,I am awsome!! an antisocial,schizoid,clairvoyant,talented,gifted-weirdo_teenage freak.

By BonGo on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 04:45 pm:

the holy war has been happining for 100s of years as the Bible prdicted and when the word Peace is used and all is well in the middle east all hell will break loose.my prediction is some UN contry will trie to bomb the crap of of the countrys involved in the holy war <Israel,iran<iraq but will be consumed by the flames of God.:)

By Little Dolls on Friday, April 2, 2004 - 01:35 am:

No sense in trying to explain, I understand.
Illumini do not need explination, we are told.

In the year 2013 our Lord and creator
will come to us. Our sabbath planets rings
will collapse, it is intersection.
2013 GREGORIAN is 2000 solar
cycles from Christ. Yes, Y2k is not here yet.

Your DNA is not a finished work. It will not
be unless you are worthy. 2 become 1, and its
for you to learn, If you do not, you are baboon.

God seeks good will and intellegence. Simple.
unless you understand, your not worthy, and you
will go around again. Until your ready for unity.

P.S. your dna is a recorder of all you do here.
so do good and learn. This is what seperates
you from baboon, making you ready for assention.

I am tired of this, I have been here too many
times, I pray to make the grade. And for those
of EVIL, who laugh, I do pitty you. You will not
go around again, nor will you die.

I pray that my wings take flight and I walk on
the other side. 2 become 1 Genesis nevermore.

If we would just,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

By AndrewAdams on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 04:09 am:

I know the answer your all looking for it has to do with Pie. That is a mathmatical pie
email me to discuss but I only want people who halfway understand what im talking about to respond

By J. Tangnon on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 05:21 pm:

You mean Pi, right Mr. Adams? I would find it difficult to believe that the world would end based on the mathematical principles of Pie...

By Ruben Perez on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 04:37 pm:

I just think that people who wish to grace us with their brilliant opinions should do a spell check before doing so.

By RPerez on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 05:26 pm:

Humams are a product of the same forces that produced all life on earth. We are a part of a biological continuum. However, we are the only species to master our environment in such a way that we could manipulate it to our wants and needs. Man has gone on setting himself on a hierarcheal pedistal devoid of consequence. One source I hold accountable for the spread of ignorance and unacountability is religion, the bible, and the church (all products of the same). People who use God as their cry, do nothing more than proclaim of the heaven that is to be theirs, while they sit and shit on the heaven that has been given to them here. Man has created a hegemonic influence that is lasting, making us believe that we are special and divine and will be saved, set apart from all other life forms that exist. It is this kind of mentality that has been the worst poison of all for mankind, for we buy into the superiority complex, which allows us to subjugate other life forms that we see inferior. You see it all throughout history. Time to wake up and see the playing field is level, the consequences to follow will be equivalent of what you put in. For whatever reason that we were allowed the gift of life do not take for granted that the gift will last forever and do not take for granted that the heaven you seek will be there. The poisioning of this planet will have to stop an exponental number of times abruptly to remedy the hazards that have been produced. Life has a resilent manner and I am sure it will find it's way never ceasing, but as ambassador's of intellect we have showed much disregard for the gift we hold over other life forms--knowledge. And through this disregard of the one gift that we can show proof of, the consequence should be severe for all mankind affecting the continuum to which we belong.

By DickTDil on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 11:42 am:

As an intelligent person of this great Earth, I would like to inform everyone of what will really happen in 2012. You see folks, my associate and i have researched and found that NOTHING will happen in 2012. The mayan man who made the calendars got tired of doing this job. He figured "hey, i won't be around in 2012 so why bother makin a calendar." So you see, he quit. That is the end of the story. Nothing will happen to us and this great world we call home. Thank you and good bye.

By Wtf on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 06:13 pm:


By Bob stokes on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 05:36 pm:

these is gay

By J. Tangnon on Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 09:36 pm:

R Perez - maybe one who is trying to criticize someones spelling should take into account that maybe the humour lies within the wordplay...

By Michael-lover2012 on Friday, April 30, 2004 - 07:53 pm:

I kind of believe and kind of dont.50/50 for me. I havnt seen the mayans theory. Im kind of freaked out to tell you the truth!Are you?

By Michael-lover2012 on Friday, April 30, 2004 - 07:56 pm:

i pray to god that it is not true

By 2012 on Friday, April 30, 2004 - 11:35 pm:

Its the end of the world as we know it, dogs and cat's living together: MASS HISTERYA!!!!

By Jerryspaceman2004 on Saturday, May 1, 2004 - 10:58 am:

i think 2012 might be the point where all of our
thoughts and imaginations transcend what we
know right now, and we can open our minds
and hearts to create a better world for
ourselves. maybe it is up to us, not up to
mother nature?

By Jerryspaceman2004 on Saturday, May 1, 2004 - 11:03 am:

and another thing. i think the keyword here is
not actuality, but possibility. think about all the
possibilities that there are that we are
unattuned to and could be waiting for us if we
really wanted them badly enough.

By Tommy Vercetti on Sunday, May 2, 2004 - 10:28 am:

This Mayan date 2012 is not a prediction it's a calculation, they calculated that the world already had 4 timecycles which all ended into a disaster, they believed that the universe operated in great cycles, which they called "suns", in ancient texts from the Aztecs written in the "Vaticano Latin Codex" there's an interesting part about these "suns". As it is written the first sun had a duration of 4008 years and was destroyed bij water(FLOOD, as described in the bible).
The second sun had a duration of 4010 years and was destroyed by wind(perhaps twisters or hurricanes).
The third sun had a duration of 4081 years and was destroyed by fire(maybe vulcanic eruptions or meteors crashing into earth).
The fourth sun had a duration of 5026 years and was destroyed by a deluge of blood and fire(maybe that means war).
And the fifth sun, our current epoch, will come to an end when the Sun God himself returns, the fifth sun is called "sun of movement" which probably indicates that the fifth sun is going to end by earthquakes, but no one knows for sure. The only thing thats's sure is the date of december 2012.

By So ruuzzlw on Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - 01:29 pm:

Yo this is a test

By YO YO YOY OY on Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - 01:34 pm:

i think it could be real i mean u never kno fo sho it could be like whoa i mean u never kno till its the experience --------------------- so yea fo sho

By Nebster Retrac on Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - 01:48 pm:

You want to know what i think.. this is the biggest load of bs in the history of man kind. I want to know who did the math to figure out this cheesey date of theirs. Any joe blow off the street can come up with a date that will be the end of the earth. What's more, the mayans are dead so that show's how smart they were. They thought that a spaniard's hands would disappear if he put them in his pockets. Kind of dumb, don't you think? I am insanely disgusted at the fact that some people actually believe this date will be the end of the world. It think that the mayans had to much fermented juice, and ate to many still beating human hearts. Any one would lose it some time if the participated in something like this annually. The stinkin' (literally) barbarians were also sniffin' some mix of herbs almost sll day so they could be "inspired" by the "gods". They were just high on crack. Those poopoo heads wouldn't know the difference between a pine apple and a coconut. Their intelligence level was probably just barely above a first grader's. Stupid mayans, the chancesof the world ending on that date are horrible. You have a higher chance of getting hit by lightening (1 in 250,000,000) than having the world end. I think that the mayans were PUI (predicting under the influence. Stupid mayans trix are for kids.

By Joe Dirt on Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - 06:27 pm:

This theory is bull crap.

No, really, it is.

Are you still here?

Go away, you're ugly.

Stop it!

Ok, so this man walks up to this blonde and he says.......... um....... uh........... this is really awkward........ I think I just forgot what the joke was.......... um............. I'm going to leave now.

Are You still here?!

You are really dumb if you take any of these mayan theories seriously.

Yeah, you're that dumb.

You're so dumb that you fell for this, it's all just a conspiracy.

So, um yeah, You're that stupid.

Silly Dumb person, trix are for aliens in little red shirts that have "Elvis is coming" on them.

Geez you are dumb if you're still reading this.

By Tommy Vercetti on Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - 11:50 am:

I wanna say somthing about the mayan people being stupid because they are dead by spanish conquistadors. Ever heard of Viracocha, described as a white male with beard, white robe and mystical powers? The Mayan history speaks about this mysterious figure as does the Olmec, Aztec, Inca religion. So when the spanjards arrived(also white males, with beards) they thought it was the return of Viracocha, but they were awfully mistaken, and these spanish bastards killed everyone and destroyed 99 % of the historical archives because in their perspective it was the work of Satan. So it wasn't stupid, it was betrayal by the spaniards that made them eradicated. They received the spaniards as Gods and got betrayed. But they already had foreseen that as well that their empire would soon come to an end.

By Tgttt on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 06:41 pm:

I don't know what to think.When i am 8 years older i will know

By Hjgh on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 06:49 pm:

I researched this and found that 1/1/2012 is a Sunday!Coincedince?I don;t think so!

By Mhmgh on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 07:15 pm:

"From past prophecies we should be dead already. What happened to Y2K? I don't remember planes dropping from the sky and the anti-christ rising from Hell."

Ever heard of 9/11!?!HUH!the anti-christ is now.We do not see it.There are people who worship Satan!There are bands that are Anti-christ!What about Isreal and palastine!?!More thing s can happen!Osama bin Laden is fighting a religious war!

By Hgjj on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 07:33 pm:

"Ya know I could be wrong, although I am a psychic, but I get this world is going to be here for many more years. 2012 and beyond. That is what I am picking up and that there will be a cure for Aids within the next year, but I'm not Miss Cleo, so don't hold me to that. I'm a psychic yes, but I don't claim to know everything and yes I have been wrong before, but not too often. "

2 years passed with no cure to Aids!U r a fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Kris Lewellen on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 06:18 pm:

A lot of religions use ilegal drugs for religous and medicianal purposes, so they come up with a lot of shit.

the bible was not written by god. It was written by his friends, you know how friends exaggerate stories and get things turned around.

So did the myans have a telescope to check out the planets?

By Chief Enema on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 10:40 am:

I beleive in the year 2012 Jeffrey Alan Morse's head will explode. While it may not be empty, it will burst because it is completely full of crap.

By Tamra-HI on Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 02:46 am:

Why do most people take this so lightly? Have you ever thought that this mayan date really has something to do with our future? It seems most of you have thought of it but, most of you just push it away.
My thoughts on this theory is that humans have been born on this earth religously or scientificly, which ever you beleive. We have first, lived with what we were given by this divine earth and last, drained almost every natural resource that in turn provides us with everything we need to live. Now because we have manipulated our life source to the point of no return, dont you think that a new start should be present?
Now as many different creatures are on this earth many arent...like the dinosaurs. Wasnt it natural disaters that put them into history books?
In all that i have said im not saying the world will end in 2012 but i am saying our earth is dying and it is time to "start over" and whatever force takes us there, whether it be time or god, it knows that it is time to do so. thats why i believe it will come because it has happened before...laugh if you will when december 2012 comes and we are all sitting here reading these posts and time does not come to a hault, trust me i will be laughing too.

By JjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjC on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 10:09 pm:

What about the planet Nibiru, or planet X, heading straight for us and then turning and moving back out to space, causeing global desasters like the one's in the movie, the day after tomarrow!!!!!

By Yeshua on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 10:32 pm:

Ok, 2012 is real, but desaster will start to happen this year or next, soon. So people there is your warning. 2005-2012 the last 7 years of our lives, seven years I don't know but, does it say something about seven years in the bible, I mean the signs of an end is clear to see, Jesus is on the big screan, The day after tomarrow movie, UFO activities highten, the terrist threats, war, globel warming, holy war declared, US scandles happening with doubleing our dept, to Enron, open your minds and put all the pieces together, it's time to get ready for the Globel desasters. God be with all of you, as he is with me. Yeshua

By Tridot on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 12:44 am:

Rperez, It is the view of freemasonry that you
hold true. A prodigy of the protocols of zion
godless in nature. Yes, when the rest of the
people of earth feel as you do Illuminiati ideals
will have triumphed. And god will be denied to you and your children. Goyum, the wind
blows thru your head. WAKE UP!! Everything you thought was not real, IS. The worst is yet to come. You still have time, Pray and call to
God,to save you and your children.

By YeshuaJesus on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 11:47 pm:

I am here once again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yeshua

By MemyselfandI on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 01:16 pm:

yeah,let me just say get ready for another day in paradise.

By CONSPIRICACY on Monday, May 31, 2004 - 01:28 pm:


By Jctatum on Thursday, June 3, 2004 - 06:42 pm:

It might have something to do with th PEAK OIL situation we are facing. The end of Oil.

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